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SvennoJ on 17 May 2013
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Corey said:
SvennoJ said:
Corey said:
4K is pointless

TV, at least where I am is either 576i or 1080i and is a long way from ever reaching 4K let alone 1080p
Gamers would rather better graphics then ridiculous high resolutions especially for the general 23" monitor
There are no physical discs for 4K and blu ray has only just started becoming standard
4K files are way too large and streaming of 4K content won't be feasible for many countries
Unless we are speaking of 50"+ tv's 4K is mostly pointless even if we had 4K content readily available.

I really don't see 4K catching on anytime soon

The exact same arguments as in 2005 when the first 1080p tv's came out.

Full 4K benefit on a 23" monitor is apparent at 1.5ft, not an unreasonable distance for a pc monitor.
Multi 1080p screen pc gaming and oversampling at 4K has been going on for years.
Higher res means less need for anti aliasing, less artifacts while upscaling. 720p content will look better upscaled to 4K then to 1080p.
Did people compain about higher dpi CRT tvs / monitors? More pixels provide a clearer image, regardless of the source.

At least the average Joe won't think he needs to be able to see every individual pixel for it to have benefit to him.
And you would finally be able to see all those 8MP and up pictures you've been taking for years the way they were meant to be seen.

My main argument was the ability to produce 4K content for these screens in the coming years. How is the content going to be delivered to homes without a 4K media disc, console gaming restrictions (what developer is going to waste the hardware power on a 4k res), low resolution tv channels and incapable internet all over the world.

Consumer's aren't going to mass upgrade to a technology where there xbox looks the same, where the football looks the same and where all of their previous content looks the same, the difference with 1080p wasn't just for the resoltuon but the convenience of thin and large flat screen tv's that came with it.

For 4K to be feasable it needs the consumer to see a large benefit from having an upgrade, at this point in time and likely for many years to come it will remain pointless. 1080p console gaming, streaming and TV channels still aren't exactly the standard, yet they are already jumping at the possibilities of 4K.

Same argument in 2005 again. No content available to homes, and 10mbps movie streaming was still a pipedream for 99% of people.
There are already a few 4K streaming services planned, 20-30 mbps with better compression formats, that should give you about 6-8 times the quality of current 5-10 mbps 1080p streaming.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/14/4098896/netflix-chief-product-officer-neil-hunt-expect-4k-streaming-within-a-year-or-two
http://www.eyeondemand.com/2013/04/10/news-sony-presents-4k-on-demand-for-your-streaming-future/
http://www.techradar.com/news/television/tv/first-ultra-hd-player-for-the-home-goes-on-sale-1138876

Previous content will look better. Upscaled dvd looks better on 1080p does it not? So will upscaled 1080p. Upscaled 720p will not suffer from artifacts as it does upscaling it to 1080p.

Average consumers won't run out and upgrade, but when they're ready for a new tv they will see the new lightweight bigger tv's in stores, walk up to the screen and say yes this looks better compared to that 1080p set next to it. If it is not that much more expensive, they'll buy it. For years they put up with stretched 4:3 on widescreen tvs before widescreen finally became standard.

Anyway my 1080p lcd is starting to show it's age after 7 years. It it lasts another 1-2 years until good 65" 4k HMDI 2.0 tv's are under $2000 then I'm in.