The three headed dragon against Obama

[Bong Lover]

dsgrue3 said:

Bong Lover said:

Indeed, there is an UCLA report that shows liberal bias, but the point is, there are many others that show no bias or conservative bias. The UCLA research was conducted by a conservative professor and the metric is set up against a supposed center of the American public and rated against that. The study only covers about 20 different news shows, the researcher admited to go in expectign to find liberal bias and found it. In short, there's no way that research paper can be held as the be all and end all of the discussion. Great, there are many opther reports that show the opposite. Here is another collection of stats from the same election:

http://photos.prnewswire.com/prnfull/20120807/CG52261-INFO

What does this prove? Nothing, but we can go on forever exchanging links to studies and reports. The most interesting report on this is a metastudy report that studies the findings in a wide number of reports and concluded that it's impossible to show bias either way. The various outlets cancel eachother out and any bias is negleble to none. Unfortunately I can not find a link to the research paper online.

So where does the idea of liberal bias come from? It's a stated strategy by the Republican party to aggressivly attack the media to try to sway coverage slightly in their favor. At least that is what some quotes are taken to mean. Again, facts show us that more republicans find the news media to be bias than democrats. The myth of a liberal media bias is self sustaining as people want to believe it's true so they look for evidence that supports it and rejects evidence to the contrary. You show an excellent example of it in your post where you vehemently reject the link I posted, and put much more weight on the link that you posted that supports what you want to be true.

I post actual studies, you post links to op-ed pieces and images.

I think it's pretty clear your argument has no credence.

Futhermore, the image posted analyzes "times quoted" and does not address whether or not this was good or bad, failing to provide any sort of compelling argument at all.

So far you've provided no such sources that back up your claim at all. Score: 3 - 0

Game over.

You posted one study, the well known UCLA study that shows liberal bias, whitout mentioning any of the critisism that the report was barraged with (by the liberal establishment no doubt). The other link was an article about the same research and then some guys opinion. Again, you are showing confirmation bias in the way you assess the sources that are available to you.

Anyway, here is more research showing that while there is virtually no detecable bias in news media in political reporting, the more bias is discussed in media the more biased people think media is.

http://www.journalism.wisc.edu/~dshah/CR1999a.pdf

So what is the score now?  1 - 1 if we decide we can't include results from PEW which you apparently dismiss (unknow for what reason)?

In reality, the liberal media myth is an example of a lie told often enough that people believe it without even questioning it. I decided to look into it a few years ago when I heard the first claim of liberal bias because it didn't seem to make sense, and sure enough, it doesn't. The liberal media thing is largely a massive case of confirmation bias on display.

It's pretty obvious where the truth of the matter lies when you see the prercentages of Republicans that believe there is a strong liberal bias in the media and compare it to the percentage of liberals who fel there is a strong conservative bias in media. The truth is that polictics is a topic that people feel strongly about, ande as a result the tendencies towards confirmation bias we all have get even stronger. People get super defensive about it, just check out how you feel about this obviously true statement:

If you believe there is significant liberal bias in the media you don't know the facts or you fail to understand them.