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Cobretti2 on 11 May 2013
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bananaking21 said:
Cobretti2 said:
bananaking21 said:

@bolded - so you are telling me that people bought a ME or fifa or madden game, went like "well this game is pure crap" and then when NFS launched they were like "well EA screwed me over with ME, im not buying this one because it will probably suck"? thats how consumers buy games now? if a game from a completely different genre wasnt as good as it is on another platform the consumer boycutts the entire publisher? you honestly believe that how the mass market works? or consumers buy their games ? 

also another flaw in your logic is that those games sold horribly, so even if they did effect the choice of consumers the number of consumers who were held off buying NFS were very very few, thus not effecting the reputation of the game, yet it sold as horrible as the other games

@underlined - people keep saying that but for some reason they dont see the full picture! the price PS360 versions of the game wouldnt effect an owner of a  WiiU console if he only had a WiiU. but by saying these people have the choice to buy the game on another platform for a cheaper price indicates that these consumers already have either a PS3 or 360. it means that EA already does cater to them. then why the fuck would EA spend money on a port for the WiiU when they are basically selling to the same people?!!

I wish people on here would use their brain more often.


@bolded comment - they do not need to buy them, core gamers will read reviews and also play the demos. Madden and Fifa used the engine from 2012 and had bits missing. You dont need to BUY a game to know it. As an example OUTSIDE the Wii U, look at Aliens CM, most of us said WTF happen to this game before we bought it.

@underlined comment - if a TRUE gamer not a fanboy has a Wii U and a PS360, and both trilogies come out at the same time and price and the Wii U version at a minimum had off screen play, then people would have chosen that over the trilogy pack on the other consoles.  An example outside Wii U, to use your words "why the fuck would EA spend money on a port for PS4/NextBox when are are basically catering to the same crowd on PS360?" The answer is simple, enhancements that make the game stand out other their other owned consoles.


you do realize aliens CM sold 1.3 million in about 2 months units right? that pretty much shows that even if us, the core gamers know whats going on. doesnt mean the mass market does. look at CoD vita. .71 million sold.  AC vita. .6 million units sold. that is more than 10 times the games i listed. you pretty much killed your point when you brought up aliens CM

no they wouldnt have bought it on the WiiU. you are just assuming they would. ME3 does have multiplayer, and people that do playmultiplayer would have bought it on the console there friends have, which is mostly either the ps3 or 360. people are also fixated that the off screen play is a killer feature, but it really isnt. they cant accept that a lot of people dont care for it. is it a cool feature, yes. do most people care about it? no, not really. another thing is DLC, while this may effect few it still could effect people already have money in their PSN wallets or MS points, they could buy the game accoridng to which account they have money already stored on

"I wish people on here would use their brain more often."

you are replying to me directly so even if you didnt call me out we both know who that "stealth" insult is directed to. another comment like that and i will report you in a heart beat. there are forum rules repsect them and have a debate without trying to insult me or others. i didnt insult you or try to so no need to get things personal. you are not fooling anyone with generalizing that comment.


My point is still valid, the Wii U has only sold about 3million units. There is real no mass market. It is early adopters who are most likely Nintendo gamers and know what is going on.

Assuming the 1.3 million is right (VGChartz has half this), that is nothing of a 150million base which has a mass market component to it. This is like 0.87% of total install base. 

Now using Wii U numbers from VGchartz to find % sold against 3million Wii Us sold:

Pos Game Platform Year Global % Sold
3 ZombiU WiiU 2012 0.42 14.00%
4 Monster Hunter Tri WiiU 2012 0.33 11.00%
5 Lego City Undercover WiiU 2013 0.24 8.00%
6 Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing Transformed WiiU 2012 0.21 7.00%
7 Just Dance 4 WiiU 2012 0.18 6.00%
8 Call of Duty: Black Ops II WiiU 2012 0.18 6.00%
9 Scribblenauts: Unlimited WiiU 2012 0.16 5.33%
10 Assassin's Creed III WiiU 2012 0.14 4.67%
11 Batman: Arkham City WiiU 2012 0.14 4.67%

The ratios are no so bad considering they do not include digital sales.

Notice how the games that had effort put in are topping that list?.

 

As for the my comment about people would buy it on Wii U, well I was refering to people who this gen had no choice but to get a second console to experience 3rd party games. If Wii U had excellent support, I am sure those people would love to go back to one console users, and therefore would indeed buy the trilogy on the new system, assuming they owned a Wii U already an liked the fatures the Wii U offered.