g911turbo said:
Captain_Tom said:
g911turbo said:
Captain_Tom said:
g911turbo said:
Captain_Tom said:
Machiavellian said:
Interesting enough, I wonder if this will be a boon to the WiiU. If Nintendo is able to bring out some big guns, drop the price to 250 and the PS4 and Nextbox come out at a price of 500 to 600 bones, I know what console I will be getting for Christmas. |
He isn't saying the PS4 won't be sold at a loss, he is saying it won't be so huge that it causes an overall loss that quarter! Duh!
Also the Wii U is already losing to the PS3 so I don't see how a PS4 releasing is gonna help it lol...
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Strong sales of the PS3 and Xbox 360 are not going to help ANY of the next generation consoles.
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When did I say they would? I said the Wii U is losing to the 8 year old 360, and the PS4 launching won't help the Wii U. Whether or not PS3 prices affect the PS4 much is a whole other debate...
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OK, I understand what you are saying now. So let me pose a hypothesis for your original question/statement (again, not saying this will be true just throwing something out there).
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Also the Wii U is already losing to the PS3 so I don't see how a PS4 releasing is gonna help it lol...
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Perhaps, if the PS4 is priced high enough, say 450-500, it will showcase the Wii U as a middle ground and not overpriced. Right now the Wii U is the most expensive kid on the block. With not many "big hitter" games, and crappy ports, it seems almost overpriced to a much more mature ps3/360. You're paying for the tablet addition, but not many game showcase it yet...
However, with the release of the next xbox and PS4, pricing will shift. People will have something more expensive to compare the Wii U to, almost like a reference point. Just a thought. Yeah the graphics will be more polished etc, but that will come at a premium. And the controller will still not be a tablet.
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Let's say the Wii U is dropped to $250 and the PS4 is $400-450. That will still leave the PS3 likely at $200. An extra $50 for less capacity, worse online gaming, a FAR smaller library, and a tablet controller.
That is the inherant problem with the Wii U: It is a trade-off, and not an upgrade. It does not deserve a price premium over the PS360.
Meanwhile the PS4 is an extra $200 for over 10x the horsepower, larger capacity, newer and more games, lightyears better onine capabilities (Background downloading, sharing, play while downloading), and the ability to have the Vita do everything and more that the Wii U's tablet can (If you own one, or if you want to upgrade down the line). The PS4 is a clear upgrade over this gen, and that is why people will justify its purchase.
P.S. I will say that I am worried about how well this gen will do for all 3, but still the Wii U was a year or two too late to the party, and Nintendo is gonna have rougher times ahead if they don't completely relaunch it...
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I see your concerns, but I bolded some things I don't get.
Worse online gaming comparing Wii U to PS3 or do you mean xbox 360?
The Wii U's online has few options (No BF3, Killzone, MAG, or HALO), and it is not as up to date or supported as on PS360. The Wii U can't support large updates, and there is little incentive for 3rd parties to support a version of a came that has (Litterally) a 30th of the players as on PS360/PC.
PS4 will also have a small library when it releases.
Yes but the PS4 is launching with Killzone, InFamous, BF4, and suposedly a few other games SONY is saving to reveal later. I'll admit that those might just be games I love, so I care more; but can you honestly tell me ANOTHER 2D mario is equal to those?
I see where you are coming from, but you are being REALLY pessimisting on the Wii U and REALLY optomistic for the PS4. I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
I must stand by my claim that the Wii U is a trade off, not an upgrade (Unlike PS4/X8). However I do think the Wii U can be saved if drastic measures are taken, and that while the PS4 will have a better launch periode, it might not be 100% smooth sailing (Console gaming IS showing some signs of shrinking).
P.S. Thanks for not raging, I usually really p!ss people off, but you responded intellegently...
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