Sony: "Unlike PS3, we are not planning a major loss with the launch of PS4"

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VGKing said:

Zero999 said:

VGKing said:

PS4 is a high-end product. I'd say $499 is reasonable for what you'll be getting. $450 would be generous of Sony and $400 would be a steal. Let's not forget that next-gen consoles aren't targeted at the mainstream. 

It all depends on the HDD size, whether or not a game is included..etc..etc. 

Ps4 is a video game and therefore 399 is expensive, 449 is too expensive and 499 is more than abusive.

just to be clear, i'm not talking about the cost of the console against the cost of components. another example: with ps3 at launch, you'd pay 499/599 for something that costs 700+. it's a great deal but it was still a videogame and that price is incredibly high for one.

considering the recession, i think 499 is the new "599" from 2006 so it is worrying when the bare minimun price we can think of is 399 wich is already expensive.

Gaming isn't a cheap hobby, it never has been. For those that can't afford a PS4, there's the PS3.

This thing will last people 7+ years. PS4 will be more than a just a video game console though. It will be an entertainment hub just like PS3 was.

Being an entertainment hub won't be a selling point. There are TONS of other devices that are cheaper where you can watch movies, TV series, etc. Heck you can use Netflix with your smartphone, which is more than enough for a lot of people. Gaming consoles sell because of games, all this entertainment stuff are just bonuses which will only be a second thought or not even a priority for a lot of people.  

Is true that gaming has never been a cheap hobby, but the economy is not in a well position for people to spend $400+ on a simple hobby. As long as the 360 and PS3 have games coming for them and the PS4 and Xbox Infinity are expensive (let's say until they reach a $300-$350 price point (not counting subscription base models, if there are any)), then both consoles will suffer in the sales department, at least that's what I think.