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dsgrue3 said:
scat398 said:

actually communism would have been closer to a secular society where the governement essentialy became the religion of the people, it's the ultimate goal of the progressive movement. 

I'm not a religious man myself, but I would be foolish not recognize the enormous amount of good it has brought to the world.

What "good" are you attributing to religion?

Well lets see.  Greater value on life, community, charity.  Higher rates of happiness and wellness.  How do you not acknowledge the good religion has brought to the world?