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JakDaSnack said:
dsgrue3 said:
Roma said:

as for the universe having always existed is impossible as we know that it is expanding thus it had a starting point. plus the rules that nothing comes out of nothing in our universe would make the universe having to create itself without it being there in the first place and with nothing I mean zero even the things we don't see. that's like a mother giving birth to her self without existing to create her self (head explodes). lol

Correct. The Universe had a finite starting point.

Incorrect that something cannot come from nothing. It can indeed happen. That isn't to say that it DID happen. No, no one is saying that...only that is is plausible. It offers one possible explanation, which is much more than we had before.

The reason we can say that it is plausible for the Universe from "nothing" is because the sum total energy of the Universe can be described as 0. Thus, mathematically, it is completely reasonable to get something (0) from nothing (0). 

If you throw a shotput in the air, at some point in the air it will completely stop and thus is sum total energy will be 0, but guess what, it's not nothing.  And while the Universe has a total sum energy of 0, it still isn't "nothing."

Wrong. A shotput is still a shotput regardless of its position.

Matter (the shotput) IS energy. At no point does the energy of the shotput hit 0, because matter is simply energy and energy is nothing more than the probability of partial wave-form collapse.