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Ji99saw said:
Jay520 said:
Ji99saw said:
I hate when people discuss religion on this VGC, it's cringe worthy to read some of the comments from the some comments from people that swear there more intelligent than others because they "don't believe in any thing but themselves" and yet fail to realize how important religion is on a fundamental level. It's sad to see people fumble in ignorance.

OT- Religion built almost all the foundations we have today. Law,Order, Justice, Love, Right and Wrong. If it were not for some type of religion we would be mostly feral and kill each other over territory and resources (more than we already do) and it would be complete chaos.


You might have a point if you were referring to more ancient civilizations...maybe. But this thread is talking about modern society where religion is no longer necessary for structure, so you don't really have a long to stand on here. Especially considering many modern civilizations do just well without a strong emphasis on religion. Religious benefits today are not substantial.

If you are acknowledging the fact that Religion  shaped society and human history today then how can the absence of it completely not have harmful effect. The origins,lessons and teachings of religions have to be reinforced and taught  forever or they will be forgotten and the moral ground that modern society stands upon will collapse. It's like riding a bike and forgetting how to walk, or learning multiplication but forgetting addition.By the way name one modern civilization that does not have a strong religious emphasis.



Just like living in trees may have helped us in the past, but aren't quite useful today. Plenty of activities were very helpful in the past for ancient civilizations, but are not today because they have been replaced by better alternatives. In this case, the biggest benefits of religion - keeping society under control - is replaced with laws & rules which aren't necessarily meant to follow religion, but to help society as best it can, in most developed countries at least. As people change, we also improve the systems and activities we have, discarding the old and replacing it with the new. This is well known; something that may have been beneficial in the past doesn't need to be used forever.

its also generally well known that the most religious countries tend to be poor and the most atheistic countries with low emphasis on religion tend to be wealthier. Search religiousity and wealth.