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pezus said:
Frank_kc said:
If you dont believe in god, then you are delusional, This universe could not have created it self. The way this universe operates precisely, could only be a creation of some one, and its god. If anything goes a bit of its track in this world, the whole world will break down. i.e. sun comes closer a bit or further a bit.

Human was not created by universe nor created by its own. Human is a great example of god's creation.

You're using circular logic.

Humans are the result of countless mutations in DNA, the creation of DNA, the creation of the elements etc. What came first isn't known, but to say that "God" is the only option just "because" isn't real logic and it won't convince anyone.

For the record... DNA came considerably after the creation of elements.  Subatomic particles -> simple elements -> nuclear fusion in stars -> heavy elements -> chemical compounds -> amino acids and other complex carbon chemistry -> RNA -> DNA.