Yet another call for gun control - Daily Show

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sc94597 said:

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snyps said:
i love seeing europeans talk about how unsafe it is to live in the us. Theres more violence in europe.

the only ppl we fear in america is the government.. and we are afraid of becoming like europe.

Funny that, as you all came from Europeans and our actions. But I would be afraid of your government too, when they only listen to the people with the money despite the fact that every part of society votes. No matter the consequences

Americans fled Europe for a reason. Most often because they were oppressed by the despotist policies of European states.  

I suppose the Australians left for the same reason and let they are no different to us now, although many were criminals... Although, i don't think the first Americans were any better than us after how they treated the natives or the Africans they continued to bring over for the slave trade (i'm glad the civil war settled that one at least). Not like the English or French were any better though. But anyway, America once a progressive modern state, not so much any more. 

1. Was liberalism (real liberalism - not the leftist stuff espoused today) ever as strong in any continent than North America? If not, then there's your answer.

2. Also, the United States was indeed once a "progressive" country. The progressive movement was so awesome with its eugenics  , internationalism, and interventionism. 

Fortunately, liberalism and freedom have been much more popular notions in the U.S than "progressivism." Right now it hides under liberalism, but it's still as despicably authoritarian and abhorent as ever. 

1. Thinking about it, it was where real liberalism comes from. That ideology still sort of lives on today there, with the free marketeers and those who really want to stick with the American constitution. Unfortunately, neither main party seem to stick to this very American belief. Only the Libertarian party seem to. But back to the point, you could say the liberalism in the USA of 1776 was what truly inspired Europeans, especially the French in 1789 (although that idea didn't seem to last long there, it changed everything. The enlightenment had a lasting effect) 

2. I don't know it don't seem so liberal, at least in the last century or so. Alcohol prohibition in the 20's, Intervention in Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq over it's own fears despite the fact those countries were no threat to the US. War on drugs, trying to pass SOPA, CISPA etc. Guantananmo bay, Patriot Act. The Civil Rights Act was like the only liberal thing they did. I agree the US federal government is authoritarian though

I might give those articles a read later to give some in sight