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Jay520 said:
BenVTrigger said:
Jay520 said:
BenVTrigger said:

Answer the question.  If you came up to the Mona Lisa or Statue of David which is more logical.  To believe that they created themselves or that a sculpture / painter made them.


Poor argument. You are bringing up human-made objects and asking if they were created. Of course they were created by humans. But for every human-made object, there's infinitely many more natural objects in the universe. And you can't use human-made objects to infer things about nonhuman-made objects.


Sure you can.  The single cell alone pretty much trumps the idea of chance.  You get into the whole realm of irriducibly complex parts and systems that had to coalesce simultaneously but that alone is a novel in itself.

So just because you have proved that some things were created, that means all things were created?

I....I don't know what to say to that.


Of course you dont know what to say.  Your dodging the debate.

Explain to me how the single cell, the basic building block of life, has irriducibly complex parts and systems that had to simultaniously come together happened by chance.

Go ahead.  And this is a single cell were talking about here.  We havent even gotten deep yet were still treading in the shallow water.