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BenVTrigger said:
badgenome said:
BenVTrigger said:
The biggest irony of all is atheism is a religion.

So again his argument is pointless.

Atheism is not a collection of beliefs, it is one belief at most (one can be an agnostic atheist), and therefore not a religion.


Sure it is.  You cant get past point of origin.  If you dont believe a "god" or outside source created the Universe you have no other conclusion to arrive to other than the absolute absurd notion that the Universe created itself. in such a case the Universe itself is all powerful and responsible for the creation of life and thus "God". Atheists can try and hind behind their slander of religion when in all actuality to believe the Universe is capable of creating itself takes FAR more faith than any form of organized religion.



Atheism isn't a belief that the universe created religion; that's a subset of atheism, and really, that's kind of stretching it..

Moreover, a belief that the universe created itself is undeniably less absurd than the belief that God created it. Even if both are absurd because they assume the existence of an all-powerful entity, creationism definitely takes it a step further because it assumes an entity which is not only all-powerful, but which cannot even be observed.