aikohualda said:
sc94597 said:
aikohualda said:
sc94597 said:
aikohualda said:
sc94597 said:
Lafiel said:
In the past marriages between different ethnicities or different social backgrounds or different religions/confessions or ofcourse same sex mariages were banned, because other people had the power to do so.
That's why government has to get involved, as the consent of the elected representatives of all people living in a country is a powerful statement. |
Only because government was involved in marriage. If there is no state to enforce such policies then there would be total liberty in this area.
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if the government won't be involved do you think church would let gay people get married???????????????????????????????????????????????
no
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There are plenty of churches that marry gay people in the states where it's legal. Furthermore, if government makes it legal instead of liberalizing marriage the same problem still exists. Government can't force these churches to marry gay people, or at least not in the United States ( a secular federation) can it. Finally, a church is not required to get married.
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goverment cant force the churches..... but they can implement a law. not all people get married in the churches BTW..... yes a church is not required to get married.... the government does it too... so if the government would not be involve what would happen? people are now only gonna get married by the churches... and that would also trample LAWS....
tax law, property law, health law, insurance law, etc etc..........
so yes the government needs to be involve...
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@Bolded There is such a thing as an individual contract.
@Italicized DING DING DING! That's the reason why government is involved in marriage in the first place. We have a winner. Although I wouldn't call this a good thing, government controlling your marriage liberties just so they can steal more easily from you lol.
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DING DING DING
guess what.... married people have lower tax,... so gay government are stealing more money on gay people because they recognize them as single......
so who is the bigger loser here??????????????? the gay people...... and you say that government should not be involve in the decision of marriage???????????? sure! lets have the church decide... and most of the time they will say no...... it is the church that should stay away from the politics not the other way around
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Some simple comments for you to take note of:
1. The Marriage Penalty - married people do not necessarily have a lower effective tax rate. Google it for more information.
2. I don't think you quite understand the idea of no government involvement in marriage. This idea means marriage ceases to be a government institution that provides these legal and tax benefits. Marriage simply becomes a social union. No church would have any jurisdiction over marriage.
