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We'll just wait and see how the xbox720 and PS4 sell when they're out on the market. There's a lot of artificially built up hype about them, and it'll all come crashing down on the new systems' owners when they don't match up with expectations. Then you can start the comparisons of failing systems threads, just now it's too premature (for the Wii U anyway). There are too many doom and gloom threads about the Wii U simply because it was the first of the new systems on the market and it's being unfairly compared to legacy systems from this generation. All of the people who have done comparisons like that are idiots.