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VGKing on 30 April 2013
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Soleron said:
walsufnir said:
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My source , AMD themselves, says will not have the same number of cores or the same computing capability as Sony's part. What specific parts of those will remain unique to the PS4's APU, we should find out when the consumer PC version releases.

Still, what my source shows is "just how much work Sony put into the chip that is found in the Playstation 4."  Which is the reason I posted here in the first place, after you implying Sony may not have had a hand in any of the PS4's APU, or that GDDR5 will be the only difference, which my source shows is not true. 

Yes, in this point you seem to be right and I am wrong but still we don't know what exactly is what Sony contributed.

HARDLY FUCKING ANYTHING

NOTHING IN THAT LIST IS MAJOR OR HARD OR REQUIRES BILLIONS OF FUCKING DOLLARS

AMD HAD ALREADY DEVELOPED THE HARD PARTS OF KAVERI AND SONY JUST BORROWED THE TECH

BESIDES WHICH KAVERI IS TWO YEARS BEHIND SCHEDULE BECAUSE OF AMD'S IMBECILIC MANAGEMENT

THE PC HAS BEEN AHEAD OF THE PS4 FOR A CONSIDERABLE TIME FOR COST AND POWER REASONS

KAVERI WILL NOT EVEN GET CLOSE TO INTEL CPU + NORMAL GPU UPON LAUNCH AND IS IN FACT FUCKING IRRELEVANT

SONY'S CONTRIBUTION TO KAVERI IS NEAR ZERO

NEITHER AMD OR SONY ARE STARTING ANY KIND OF REVOLUTION IN EITHER THE PC OR THE CONSOLE SPACE

PS4 IS A GLORIFIED COST-DOWN COMPUTER WITH SOME MERELY COMPETENT DECISION MAKING BEING MARKETED AS A FUCKING MIRACLE

AMD HAS ZERO CHANCE OF RETURNING TO THE HIGH-END; SONY HAS ZERO CHANCE OF HOLDING SUPERIOR TECH EXCEPT ON A COST AND INTEGRATION BASIS WHICH FRANKLY SHOULD BE EXPECTED FROM A CONSOLE AT RELEASE WITH SUCH INVESTMENT

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ok I think I killed all the misconceptions in this thread. this sony/amd narrative is the most wrong thing I've ever seen.

Calm down dude. First of all, stop talking about "the PC" like it is one single thing. There are thousands and thousands of configurations. Second of all, you're right Sony didn't contribute billions of dollars to this project. That's the point. Low Cost, High Performance.

This APU inside the PS4 is a variation of the one that is coming to PCs. Like it says right there, the Sony APU has double the cores and lots of other customizations that make it better suited for console use.

No, PS4 wont' blow away $2000 PCs, but at the price point it's going at it will be state of the art. Consoles won't blow away high-end PCs like they did last-gen, but they will put them to shame in terms of efficiency and cost. My $600 custom PC can barely run a game like Guild Wars 2 in high settings at reasonable framerates. There's slow downs in the big towns, its playbable, but noticable. If a game like Guild Wars 2 was built specifically for my PC, it would run much better. Sadly, PC devs can't optimize their games for everyones setup. That's what PC settings are there for. So much power is wasted with PCs that they never live up to their true potential. It's all brute-force and raw power.

PS4 is a high-end console and it will be one of the easiest platforms to develop on and certainly the most developer friendly console ever created. That is worth praising. That is worth getting excited about and that is worth supporting with your wallet.