Popular Conservative Austerity argument Debunked?

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Tigerlure said:

thranx said:
Things in the US still have not recovered. High unemployment. High underemployment. Beginning a new housing bubble. The education bubble will have to burst sometime. Dont see how you can say we have spent ourselves into the good times when we haven't, and we still have to pay it all back. Also dont know how you can say that austerity has failed when we aren't through the mess yet. I say its too early to call right now. Why dont we wait until we are actually paying of our debt, have a good unemployment % and underemployment is a thing of the past before we declare a winner.

They've been trying that in Europe for a few years. Where has it gotten them? Some of the countries are almost entering a recession again. Maybe a few years isn't enough time, but it certainly hasn't convinced me that austerity is helpful when you're already in a weak economy.

Dont forget that those countries didnt go  BAM! now everything is changed. It took them months to change every little aspect of their policy and Its not even in full austeriy mode yet. So give them a few years.

There is also dumb citizens that 1) stop working/strike 2) go on the streets to destroy cars buldings shops 3) and block every little change. 4) force the state to pay alot of money to have security at the "demonstrations"  Of course NOT WORKING when working NOT ENOUGH being the problem helps a lot. And destroying infrastructure helps in having better infrastructure. Thats pure LOGIC!

People became lazy  they thought nothern EU countries will make the eurozone some kind of welfare place. And after spending more money than they had f*cked them up they refuse to change their behavior.

I mean look at the pension percentage compared to the actual income.  Whereas in Germany the pension is roughly 39% of the former income. Greeks get 80% of their former income as pension. 

Cut the greek pension in half and then you have alot of money.    Or in Germany stop "importing" useless cavemen without education  and start to "import" educated people college graduates etc.  All those "society parasites" they import dont help. I mean look at canada they know how to do it.

"You want to live in Canada?  Okay you have to bring XY dollars with you, you have to have a useful job/education. You also have to double the money you brought within a year. You also have to understand and speak either english or french. Welcome to Canada!"

THATS the way to go.

And not  "you are of no use? You cant speak our language? You have 20 family members that are waiting to follow you into our country? You dont want to work for your money? You plan on having 5 kids that will probably be undereducated and become criminals? Welcome to Deutschland"

I am not saying that every family is like this but there is tons of them.

TBH They should force those families to clean the streets and remove grafity,  give them something useless to do  but let them do something for their money...

Austerity alone is not the solution. They need to stop the waste of money.  They have to spend more money for important things. Short term profit/saved money   never helps  in the long run.

Governments are usually stupid, For example some German guy invented special asphalt that wont get damaged by cars or the winter/ice. It will be the same after 50 years of usage.  The asphalt costs like twice as much as normal asphalt but so far no country uses it.

They prefer to patch every little hole again and again and again.  I mean every country is in dept it doesnt matter if you buy asphalt for 2x the price. But when you do you dont have to patch ever again.