theprof00 said:
kowenicki said:
No its a fact. SONY have today said that the profit is entrely due to Yen improvement and asset sales. You have no idea what the losses are for. No idea whatsoever, the accounts arent even out yet.
If you want to be taken seriously in a financial discussion then you need to be more objective and not use words like "unfair" when discussing serious credit downgrades by Moodys, Fitch and S&P.
and flamebait...? really? get a grip.
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The lie was "you are just going off what you want to be the reality", not your facts, hence why I bolded it, but I see now that was a waste of time.
So no, I'm not delusional or anything you're implying me to be. I'm going by my own analysis of the situation which is that they've had a lot of costs, citing restructuring and layoffs in every single report, a hard yen for 3 quarters of the year, this past quarter being still 10% under the actual value, buying numerous NUMEROUS businesses:
Gaikai ~350m
Olympus ~350m
EMI ~2.2BILLION$
Left Bank: ~60m
Televiva: ~40m
While investing in lots of new R&D for new products as can be seen on nearly every quarerly result.
My perspective doesn't CONTRAST from your information. So don't say things like "I'm using things I read here and there, and from Sony itself", because it doesn't negate what I just said prior to your pithy remark that, 1) They won't need to sell any more buildings, 2) that they had a LOT of costs this year and 3) they had to deal with a lot of setbacks, like being downgraded, which severely hurt them. Now we can see that their revenue is actually increasing, and products are selling better. Had they not taken those hits, they would be even better off now. The point, is that a downgrade is supposed to be done for a company who is assumed cannot adequately pay back a loan, yet they had been so close to breaking even, that when downgraded, got swamped into the red again.
And yes, the definition of flamebait is writing something that provokes a hostile response, like for example referring to some as a fanboy, in so many words... And no doubt, you are doing a good job skirting around moderation. Saying things like yesterday to pezus "trawling the forums", oh, clever clever.
And get a grip? Keep it up Kowen.
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