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Michael-5 said:

I know kain has said that he's bought XBLG cards on Amazon.ca for $40, but he also said he bought multiple at a time at that price. Realistically, $50 is how much they cost in Canada, you can't get them cheaper on Amazon/eBay unless you're real lucky, and again, that ignores the fact that I only play 3 months online a year. A 3 month card is still $20 at best, and $7 a month is too much.

As for Silver being removed, people did not boosts on Lost Planet online. Maybe they did on Halo, but Halo 3 was not the only game to take advantage of Silver online access. Regardless of achievement boosting, that's still not a significant enough reason to remove Silver online play. If someone is bored enough to make a second account and play mindless boring games against no one to increase exp, then let them waste their time. Why make everyone suffer just because Microsoft (the publisher) wants achievements to be hard to get?

$7 is a far cry from the original number of $30 per month you were throwing around before. Again, you take any subscription based service and opt for a smaller subscription time, the average price for it will go up. This is economics 101. That's how businesses get people to sign up for longer subscriptions. If MS made a 1 month card or 3 month card average out to the same price as a 1 year card, why even make the 1 year card? Sony does this same thing with PS+ subscriptions. Every MMO around does the same thing with subscriptions. This isn't new. Regarding boosting, I never said anyone boosted in Lost Planet. I said people boosted in Halo 3. You personally might not have boosted, but who cares? Enough people were that Bungie stopped running their silver MP promotions. Has nothing to do with Gold or MS or achievements.

Michael-5 said:

It's not a ploy to get people to pay for Live

Oh bs, how come only MS brand games have achievements which require you to not only hold onto the game for a year or so, but to play it consistantly?

What PS3 exclusive game has an achievement which requires you to play online for a period of longer then 1 month? None exist. Yes there are games, PS3 exclusive and MP, which give achievements/trophies for playing x many hours online, but that's a different story, I can choose to play that game in excess over the period of a few nights and get the achievement/trophy. There are also games which require you to host x many games, but those are generally designed to keep the number of online games high.

These are completly different situations then making achievments which require you to play a game over the spand of 3 months (Halo 4) or a year (Gears 3). If you don't see this, then you are either oblivious to the fact, or just plain ignoring me.

Also regarding my post about if PS3 games do it, who cares? Who really cares, If Sony wanted to make an exclusive that required long term play, let them. PSN is free, Sony makes no $$$ off this, so there is no harm done. With XBL, there is no free option, so harm done.

Twisted Metal, SOCOM, and MAG just off the top of my head. There are also games like Ghost Recon, Unreal Tournament, Tomb Raider, Far Cry 2, GTA IV, etc. Hell, IIRC in Crysis 2 or 3 you had to play a game, then 6 months later play another one to get the trophy. Publishers put these in so that you hang on to your game. Has nothing to do with XBLG. As ar as PS3 doing it also, as you say, isn't PSN free? So how is MS doing this just to get people forced into XBLG, meanwhile Sony does the same thing with their games, on a free service? Again, they do it so you hang on to your game. It's not to get you onto XBLG.

Michael-5 said:

"So you think the DLC is overpriced and the game is overpriced. Not seeing how that relates to XBLG."

I said that the game is overpriced because DLC is overpriced. How does this relate to XBLG? Microsoft blocks other developers/publishers from selling DLC at dirt cheap prices like they can on Steam by charging them a set fee per sale. Plus MS used to sell DLC at permanently reduced sale prices, and had those sales available to silver members. Now, not only are sales temporary, they are exclusive to gold subscribers, hence XBLG and MS is not what it used to be.

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"If you live in Canada, why don't you just buy US cards?"

Lot's of US cards don't work in Canada, and many sellers on eBay/Amazon don't sell US card to Canadians. Where would I get a US card that works in Canada?

XBLG is cheaper in USA then the rest of the world, but regardless, it's still more expensive then PSN and doesn't offer that much more. Why can't MS just offer a free service with similar quality to PSN and then charge for XBLG much like PSN charges for PSN +? I would much prefer that, then I have the option to play games for free with 95% of the features.

LOL and I guess Sony also blocks companies from offering cheap DLC on their games on PSN? Geez. And Live has sales all the time that aren't Gold exclusive. Sorry but you're too angry for me to take seriously.