Zappykins said:
As others have pointed out, Marriage is good deal older than Christianity. It was something they adopted. Also, it really depends on which Bible and which translation/interpretation you use. Here is a Bible Scholar that discusses Christen support for Same Sex Marriage. We do know that they have been going on, even within the Christian Churches, throughout the ages. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RnqOOcTWEKk But I want you to think about his point. Medicine and medical care is older then Christianity too. There are many religious hospitals - so they could argue that medicine comes from God. So then is medical care a religious instruction? Should it only be available to people that believe in whatever God or Gods that the Hospital approves? Also, a word of caution, when you say someone or something is less than what others have you can, in effect, dehumanize people. When women didn’t have the right to vote, own land, or work, they were legally less than me – and were often poorly treated –often as property. Here in the State of Washington, USA, were same sex marriage is legal, an Iman is receiving death threats for performing a Muslim same sex marriage. Perform marriage shouldn't equal recieve death threats. |
I do have a habbit of sometimes being very clinical when it comes to discussing problems/issues/direction. It serves me well in a face to face situation, but defo can come across hard on forums. Shouldn't really have put things so directly but was doing so in the interest more of clarity than anything, I certainly don't think in those black and white ways on this and from a personal perspective definitely agree with you. I wasn't actually aware that marriage existed before Chrstianity until this thread and after reading Torillians post and another one after decided to look it up so it basically null and voided (as does your post) my previous argument and the people complaining from a religous perspective really don't have a leg to stand on.
I could understand an argument from the religious groups wishing same sex marriage not to be carried out in a church or by a practising religious person possibly, there's certainly a valid dicussion to be had there imo but as said, my previous comment came from ignorance on my part and have spent the last hour looking up this stuff only to find that religion and marriage are too completely seperate things going back and it's only been relatively recently that the Christianity has taken "ownership" of it in countries like the UK where I reside.
Quite interesting nonetheless, I'm no genius but certainly wasn't aware of this or made aware of this before this thread, which in itself is wrong because lay persons like myself might be lead to argue from a totally incorrect perspective. I guess we know who to blame for that, obviously my own ignorance isn't wholly excused but hey ho good to learn a thing or two every now and again :) Cheers.
