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fillet on 23 April 2013
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BradleyJ said:
fillet said:
BradleyJ said:

Yes. It does. Think it through.


No it doesn't, you think it through! :p

There's different groups of people in the world, there's several factors at play here. Most people if you ask them honestly will say that same sex relationships are fine and same sex marriages definitely aren't fine, but civil partnerships are fine too. Who are we to judge what is fine for others some might say? Well, we aren't ok to do that, but these are groups where the values are at stake for each group.

But those groups are allowed to judge what is fine for gay people? To those groups gays are less than straights, otherwise there wouldn't be any problem.


It's not that they are allowed to judge what is fine. It's simply that under the Christian faith and under what marriage is traditionally based on in a religious context then those marriages are null and void in the eyes of god, I would have thought,

As Torillian has pointed out to me though, I was simply arguing from the direction of the tradition - of course these days most people don't really think of the religous aspect however, the religious aspect did come before the purely physical union so many of the vocal Chrisitians would argue that we have no right to change what marriage is about. To some extent they are right but that doesn't change the fact that same sex couples deserve equal rights and an equal marriage.

Again, has previous post, bolded part that Torillian made, sounds like a much more logical idea. I'm not trying to push an agenda forward it's simply looking for a best solution that would satisfy most people.

Obviously the way things are now, it's neither here nor there. To many marriage is inherrantly rooted in a religious context and it would be very hard to please those people and keep the values and so forth. Think someone pointed out that marriage came before Christianity, that's news to me and if that's the case then it's ridiculous that Chrisitan vocal minority can be offended and feel that their religion is being abused/etc - I didn't realize that was the case at the time....will look into that as it's picked my interest.