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Kaizar said:
Ssenkahdavic said:
Kaizar said:
Ssenkahdavic said:
I just find it interesting that people say
"Bush was so terrible, look how he destroyed the country?"

Then in another breath say
"Its not Obama's fault, its the fault of Congress"

Which is it? Blaming Congress or Blaming the President? Hell, look at Clinton
"Clinton was a great president who got so much accomplished"

Oh ya, we forget he had a Republican Congress he was forced to work with.

Is Obama the worst ever? I highly doubt it and we cannot judge it until after he is finished. One thing is for sure though, he does not deserve the free passes he is given and Id rather just call him our "Campaigner in Chief". The government is more than just the president and should be held up as such. This is one terrible government, but it is terrible because of everyone involved.


The republicans in Congress did everything Bush wanted.

While congress under Obama fights against him every step of the way like it's a crime to be a Black president LOL.

Wow.  Why bring up race?  And the republican Congress definitely did not do everything President Bush wanted, same as the Democratic Congress of the first two years of President Obama didnt do all he wanted. 


I just find it amusing that you (plural you) can blame the sitting president in one term, and them exclusively congress in the next.  We need to wait on these three presidents for awhile before any judgement can be made.  When a judgement is made, to have a compelling argument there needs to be some synergy on how the judgement is reached.  Is it President vs. President? Or Congress of that President vs Congress of that other President?


Well, I was just joking about the race thing.

But you got to admit that no other president has ever been treated like this, with Congress talking while he gives a speech screaming liar, to other polticians coming right up to him and pointing their finger right at his face up close in person.

And calling him Muslim seems to be code for saying his an "N" word (either ending in "er" or "ro").

Plus we should be questioning Senate & Congress more. When 54% of Senate votes against what 90% of Americans want, then you got to ask who actually tries to work for the American people: Obama who agrees with 79% of Americans about the Public Option & 90% of Americans about extended background checks for guns being sold OR Congress & Senate who are against 79% of Americans on Health Care and against 90% of Americans on extended background checks for other gun sales. I mean they would rather sidetrack the discussion about abortion and other minority rights, then to do what a minimum of 75% of Americans want.

No other president has been treated like him, at least not in my lifetime  (though some of the stuff thrown at Bush after his time in office does come close).  Though I would say this is from both sides, those against him and with him (regardless of party ties).  Its all really silly.  Neither the undue hate nor the unearned adoration are due to him.

I will have to disagree with you on the 90% thing.  One part of it might have been on that 90% and they should have ONLY put a Bill up for that part.  The rest of the bill was not wanted by the majority of those same people who said Yes to Background checks.   Thats the problem with Congress (through all time) they try to pass Bills that are to large and have maybe 1 piece of legislation in them that the "other side" wants to try and sneak in.  it is usually those "added pieces of someones agenda" that destroy an otherwise good Bill.