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VGKing said:
Andrespetmonkey said:

Beer and fast food is already legal. They tried banning alcohol once and it didn't work. Weed isn't legal and it never should be.

Why? It being illegal has been a massive failure and stopped hardly anyone from doing it. It's legal in Holland and there are less users in Holland than in most places in Europe, so it's not like we can expect a surge in use.

Even if it is damaging (all the science points to it NOT being damaging), it's a personal freedom and a victimless crime. 

 We know very very little about how the brain actually works so measuring how damaging weed is nearly impossible.

Are you serious? OF COURSE we can know how damaging it is, just like we can know how damaging alcohol is on the brain, or anything else that causes damage to the brain. We don't need to know exactly how, but the effects would certainly be visible and apparant if there were in fact effects... which there are not (or are so small to the point that we don't even notice):

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20030701/heavy-marijuana-use-doesnt-damage-brain

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/21/teens-marijuana-brain-tissue-alcohol_n_2331779.html / http://www.inquisitr.com/449820/teen-marijuana-use-doesnt-affect-brain-tissue-study/

How many studies do I need to send you? Why are you choosing to ignore the science?

You said it yourself it puts you at risk for schizophrenia and there are studies that show it. Most people start smoking weed when they're in hgih shool.(some even as soon as middle school). Why would the government make it easier for people to damage themselves?

You ignored like half of what I said here. You have to smoke HEAVILY at a young age (that's daily) for YEARS, and the study that claimed a link also said it was INCONCLUSIVE and found links to several other things like introvertedness... AND there are similar studies that find NO link. 

Again, legalizing would likely make it harder for those under the legal age to get it... I know it sure would for me and my friends.

You say you can get weed easier than booze, but there are people don't have connections ike you do. Even if they wanted to they coudln't get access to this drug. I'm not saying we should arrest every 17 year old with weed, I'm just saying lets keep it illegal for the sake of humanity.

Lol... let me explain something here: 1/2 in my school smoke weed or know someone that does... it's really not hard to get a dealer. I bet it's actually a lot harder for adults. 

So the "sake of humanity" = restricting freedoms, and making illegal a herb that has proven medicinal qualities and very minimal negative side effects if any?

(FYI, I've tried weed multiple times myself and the effects of it are negative. Tiredness, sleepiness and even passing out. It's not worth it and if it these negative effects are so bad now, I dont' want to find out what they do to me in the long term. I care about my health.)

So because you had a negative experience everyone has a negative experience? Doubt you mean that, but that's how you worded it. Come on man. Do you know that there's a pretty big variety in strains and their effects? There are strains that make you sleepy and "couch-locked"(indica), but there's also strains that make you incredibly active and creative (sativa). Legalizing would give us a clear choice between the two, letting people use the right strain for treatments or for whatever activity they plan on doing. (this happens in med maj dispensaries already).

I care about my health also, as do millions of weed users... fact is weed is proven to have very minimal damaging effects, and a TON of medicinal qualities, for both body and "soul".

One studies below found "the therapeutic value of cannabinoids is too high to be put aside. Numerous diseases, such as anorexia, emesis, pain, inflammation, multiple sclerosis, neurodegenerative disorders (Parkinson's disease, Huntington's disease, Tourette's syndrome, Alzheimer's disease), epilepsy, glaucoma, osteoporosis, schizophrenia, cardiovascular disorders, cancer, obesity, and metabolic syndrome-related disorders, to name just a few, are being treated or have the potential to be treated by cannabinoid agonists/antagonists/cannabinoid-related compounds. In view of the very low toxicity and the generally benign side effects of this group of compounds, neglecting or denying their clinical potential is unacceptable"

Edit: also, this is isn't neccessarily directed at you, but people like to think there aren't much studies done on the medicinal qualities of weed or weed in general... those people are wrong: 

 

Cannabinoids: potential anticancer agents

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14570037

Endocannabinoids potently protect the newborn brain against AMPA-kainate receptor-mediated excitotoxic damage

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16682966

Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of cannabinoids

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12648025

Cannabidiol inhibits cancer cell invasion via upregulation of tissue inhibitor of matrix metalloproteinases-1

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19914218

Cannabinoids induce cancer cell proliferation via tumor necrosis factor alpha-converting enzyme (TACE/ADAM17)-mediated transactivation of the epidermal growth factor receptor

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15026328

Cannabinoid receptors in human astroglial tumors

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16893424

Up-regulation of cyclooxygenase-2 expression is involved in R(+)-methanandamide-induced apoptotic death of human neuroglioma cells

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15361550

Antitumorigenic effects of cannabinoids beyond apoptosis

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19889794

R(+)-methanandamide-induced apoptosis of human cervical carcinoma cells involves a cyclooxygenase-2-dependent pathway

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19015962

The endocannabinoid system of the skin in health and disease: novel perspectives and therapeutic opportunities

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19608284

HU-331, a novel cannabinoid-based anticancer topoisomerase II inhibitor

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17237277

An endogenous cannabinoid (2-AG) is neuroprotective after brain injury

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11586361

Gamma-irradiation enhances apoptosis induced by cannabidiol, a non-psychotropic cannabinoid, in cultured HL-60 myeloblastic leukemia cells

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14692532

A cannabinoid quinone inhibits angiogenesis by targeting vascular endothelial cells

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16571653

Cannabinoids in health and disease

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18286801

Cannabinoids and cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16250836

Delta 9-tetrahydrocannabinol inhibits cell cycle progression by downregulation of E2F1 in human glioblastoma multiforme cells

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17934890

Endocannabinoids in the immune system and cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12052046

A metabolically stable analogue of anandamide, Met-F-AEA, inhibits human thyroid carcinoma cell lines by activation of apoptosis

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19189054

Plant-derived cannabinoids modulate the activity of transient receptor potential channels of ankyrin type-1 and melastatin type-8

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18354058

Cannabinoid receptor activation induces apoptosis through tumor necrosis factor alpha-mediated ceramide de novo synthesis in colon cancer cells

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19047095

Anandamide induces apoptosis in human cells via vanilloid receptors. Evidence for a protective role of cannabinoid receptors

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10913156

The endogenous cannabinoid anandamide inhibits human breast cancer cell proliferation

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9653194

Cannabinoids as potential new therapy for the treatment of gliomas

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18088200

The non-psychoactive cannabidiol triggers caspase activation and oxidative stress in human glioma cells

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16909207

Endocannabinoids as emerging suppressors of angiogenesis and tumor invasion (review)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17342320

Apoptosis induced in HepG2 cells by the synthetic cannabinoid WIN: involvement of the transcription factor PPARgamma

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19059457

The endocannabinoid system as a target for the development of new drugs for cancer therapy

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12723496

Cannabinoids in intestinal inflammation and cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19442536

Antitumor activity of plant cannabinoids with emphasis on the effect of cannabidiol on human breast carcinoma

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16728591

The CB1/CB2 receptor agonist WIN-55,212-2 reduces viability of human Kaposi's sarcoma cells in vitro

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19539619

Cannabinoid derivatives induce cell death in pancreatic MIA PaCa-2 cells via a receptor-independent mechanism

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16500647

The endocannabinoid anandamide neither impairs in vitro T-cell function nor induces regulatory T-cell generation

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19189659

Antitumor effects of cannabidiol, a nonpsychoactive cannabinoid, on human glioma cell lines

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14617682

Estrogenic induction of cannabinoid CB1 receptor in human colon cancer cell lines

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18938775

Endocannabinoids and fatty acid amides in cancer, inflammation and related disorders

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11106791

Pharmacological synergism between cannabinoids and paclitaxel in gastric cancer cell lines

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19394652

Effect of a synthetic cannabinoid agonist on the proliferation and invasion of gastric cancer cells

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20336665

Cannabinoids in the treatment of cancers

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19442435

Cannabinoids down-regulate PI3K/Akt and Erk signalling pathways and activate proapoptotic function of Bad protein

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15451022

Cannabinoid 2 receptor induction by IL-12 and its potential as a therapeutic target for the treatment of anaplastic thyroid carcinoma

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18197164

Different views on the association between cannabinoids and cancer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16835997

De novo-synthesized ceramide is involved in cannabinoid-induced apoptosis

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11903061

Down-regulation of tissue inhibitor of metalloproteinases-1 in gliomas: a new marker of cannabinoid antitumoral activity

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17675107

Cannabinoids induce glioma stem-like cell differentiation and inhibit gliomagenesis

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17202146

Cannabinoid action induces autophagy-mediated cell death through stimulation of ER stress in human glioma cells

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19425170

JunD is involved in the antiproliferative effect of Delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol on human breast cancer cells

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18454173

Cannabinoid receptors as novel targets for the treatment of melanoma

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17065222

Anti-tumoral action of cannabinoids: involvement of sustained ceramide accumulation and extracellular signal-regulated kinase activation

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10700234

Endocannabinoids: a new family of lipid mediators involved in the regulation of neural cell development

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16787257

Cannabinoids and ceramide: two lipids acting hand-by-hand

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15958274

p38 MAPK is involved in CB2 receptor-induced apoptosis of human leukaemia cells

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16139274

The CB2 cannabinoid receptor signals apoptosis via ceramide-dependent activation of the mitochondrial intrinsic pathway

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16624285

The stress-regulated protein p8 mediates cannabinoid-induced apoptosis of tumor cells

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16616335

Control of the cell survival/death decision by cannabinoids

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11269508

Inhibition of human tumour prostate PC-3 cell growth by cannabinoids R(+)-Methanandamide and JWH-015: involvement of CB2

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19690545

Inhibition of skin tumor growth and angiogenesis in vivo by activation of cannabinoid receptors

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12511587

Opposite changes in cannabinoid CB1 and CB2 receptor expression in human gliomas

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20307616

Delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol inhibits cell cycle progression in human breast cancer cells through Cdc2 regulation

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16818634

Cannabinoids and gliomas

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17952650

Cannabinoids induce apoptosis of pancreatic tumor cells via endoplasmic reticulum stress-related genes

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16818650

Effects on cell viability

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16596790

Involvement of cannabinoids in cellular proliferation

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15638794

Hypothesis: cannabinoid therapy for the treatment of gliomas

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15275820

Cannabinoids protect astrocytes from ceramide-induced apoptosis through the phosphatidylinositol 3-kinase/protein kinase B pathway

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12133838

Cannabinoids inhibit glioma cell invasion by down-regulating matrix metalloproteinase-2 expression

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18339876

Delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol induces apoptosis in C6 glioma cells

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9771884

Delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol induces apoptosis in human prostate PC-3 cells via a receptor-independent mechanism

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10570948

Cannabinoids and cell fate

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12182964

Amphiregulin is a factor for resistance of glioma cells to cannabinoid-induced apoptosis

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19229996

Parallel experiments were performed testing the effect of Δ9-THC on human brain cancer cells (glioblastoma multiforme, or GBM) and also on normal brain cells

http://thesethgroup.org/featured_experiment.html

Δ9-Tetrahydrocannabinol (the major psychoactive component of marijuana) and its endogenous counterparts (the so-called endocannabinoids) target specific receptors on both neurons and glia

http://www.inb.u-bordeaux2.fr/siteneuro2/pages/Lundisemin/archisemin/archSemin07/Guzman.php

Manuel Guzman - Cannabinoids: potential antitumoral agents?

http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/journal/en_2006_02_1.pdf

Our research team is studying the potential of the endocannabinoid system to control cell fate with the goal of developing therapeutic interventions for aggressive cancers

http://www.cpmc.org/professionals/research/programs/science/sean.html

Many Universities and research centers have conducted scientific studies on cannabinoids and their effects on disease. Below is a sampling of these studies. You can find the complete list of several hundred studies on this page. Studies are categorized according to type of disease, such as cancer, multiple sclerosis, Alzheimer’s, etc.

http://www.phoenixtearsfoundation.com/scientific-studies/

Marijuana Cuts Lung Cancer Tumor Growth In Half, Study Shows

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417193338.htm

As of 2012, there are reports online suggesting that marijuana oil or “hemp” oil can cure cancer, as well as diabetes, ulcers, arthritis, migraines, insomnia, infections, and many other diseases.

http://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatmentsandsideeffects/complementaryandalternativemedicine/herbsvitaminsandminerals/marijuana

Cannabis and Cannabinoids (PDQ®) Antitumor Effects

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page4

Cannabis oil is a safe and natural treatment for cancer and the United States government has known about it for over 30 year. We know that testimonials only go so far, so on this page we will be compiling links to articles and studies done Universities and scientists around the world

http://www.cureyourowncancer.org/scientific-studies.html

Hemp oil controversy in Nova Scotia

http://www.canada.com/globaltv/national/story.html?id=70817eb6-a515-4af7-bf0d-3050413f0ebc

Spain Study Confirms Hemp Oil Cures Cancer without Side Effects

http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/11/27/spain-study-confirms-hemp-oil-cures-cancer-without-side-effects/

Hemp Oil Cancer Cure - Cannabis Extract Medicine and Disease

http://kaabi.hubpages.com/hub/Hemp-Oil-Cancer-Cure

Tommy Chong Cured His Cancer With Hemp Oil

 http://canadianawareness.org/2012/08/tommy-chong-cured-his-cancer-with-hemp-oil/

U.S. Scientists Find Marijuana Can Stop Spread Of Cancer

http://current.com/shows/upstream/93909617_u-s-scientists-find-marijuana-can-stop-spread-of-cancer.htm

Marijuana cuts lung cancer tumor growth in half, Harvard study shows

http://current.com/community/89799784_marijuana-cuts-lung-cancer-tumor-growth-in-half-harvard-study-shows.htm

Dr. Raphael Mechoulam, Ph.D.

Professor at Hebrew University, Israel

Isolated THC Molecule in 1960s

"THC from the cannabis plant is just a work of nature"

Dr. Robert Melamede, Ph.D.

Associate Professor and Biology Chairman

Biology Department at the University of Colorado

CEO and President of Cannabis Science

"Cannabinoids kill cancer cells in many cases, people are not aware of this"

Dr. Manuel Guzman, Ph.D.

Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology

Professor at the Complutense University, Madrid, Spain

"Cannabinoids have the effect of inducing death in cancer cells"

Dr. Prakash Nagarkatti, Ph.D.

Vice President for Cannabinoid Research

University of South Carolina Columbia

Distinguished Professor

"Cannabinoids can be used effectively as anti-cancer agents"

Dr. Sean McAllister CPMC Scientist

California Pacific Medical Center Research Institute

http://thesethgroup.org/videos.html

"Cannabidiol inhibits aggressive breast cancers"

Dr. Donald Tashkin, M.D.

University of California, Los Angeles

Emeritus Professor of Medicine

Medical Director of the Pulmonary Function Laboratory

"THC actually has an anti-tumor effect"

Dr. Robert Sterner, M.D.

UCSD General Surgeon

Graduate of Harvard & UCLA

"Marijuana seeks out cancerous cells and preferentially kills them"

Dr. Jeffrey Hergenrather, M.D.

Addiction Medicine Specialist

President of the Society of Cannabis Clinicians

"There are multiple mechanisms of action in which cannabis kills cancer cells"

Dr. Bonni Goldstein, M.D.

Canna Centers, Medical Director

Cannabis Researcher and Scientist

“Cannabidiol has been found to make cancer cells commit suicide”

Dr. Josh Wurzer, Researcher

Laboratory Director, SC Laboratories

Cannabis Researcher and Scientist

“Health benefits attributed to THC is actually because of the CBD content”

Dr. Lester Grinspoon Ph.D

Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry

Harvard Medical School

“There are no deaths from cannabis use, anywhere, you can’t find one”