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Soleron said:
disolitude said:
Soleron said:

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Sure they are...

It shows that PCIe x4 vs PCIe X16 on the exact same platform has little to no impact.

It also shows that having extra CPU cores which are utilized in 3D mark vantage doesn't yeld a much higher frame rate. 3.6 Ghz on Liano vs 4.0 GHZ on piledriver should be close enough in terms of core vs core considering Liano is sligtly better.  Jane nash test averages 7 frames per second more (10%) on the FX 8350 while on the pure CPU tests it's doing 45% better. This is pretty telling as to where the bottlenecks are when it comes to gaming (GPU) .

The PCIe part of your test I have no problem with.

But on the gaming test you can't tell which of the variables is causing the drop: low CPU thread utilisation, or IPC deficit. I'm interested in the 4-core test; I predict almost no change.

And also, who would buy an FX CPU for GPU-bound workloads anyway? In the FX price range, the Intel CPUs provide faster gaming performance.

Precisely because I am doing GPU bound workloads. I am gaming on 3 screens and when I went from a Phenom II 965 to a 3570k using GTX 670 SLI, I saw around 10% performance improvements for the 3570k in the best case scenario. Most of the time there was less because every game I was playing was GPU bound at 5760x1080.

Also, most of these newer games on Windows 8 and latest drivers show actual performance advantage for an overclocked 8350 Vs 3570k (Crysis 3, Farcry 3) and I expect that trend to continue since consoles will make sure games are 8 core optimized. I am not looking for more than 60 FPS here...and when 3570k beats the FX 8350 on older unoptimized games, its usually in games like Skyrim where its 70 fps vs 120. 70 is plenty for me lol. Finally AM3+ socket will see another CPU where 1155 is done... So there is hope for another 15-20% jump in performance down the road.

I actually have a 3570k with GTX 670 SLi and a BenQ 3D monitor listed for sale right now for $1500. It may even sell today with everyone that's messaging me lol... If it does I'll pocket $400 bucks and have an as good, if not better future performing PC.