How much money Sony really lost with the PS3

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walsufnir said:

VGKing said:

Bruxel said:
not suprised sony lost so much money with the ps3. The formula of having a high end console that costs lets say 800 to manufacture and 600 to retail is digging a huge hole for them to dive into, ps3 sold at a major loss.. The wii was weak but proftible is why i worry ps4 is going to make the same mistake.

It's not. If the console is sold at a loss it won't be anywhere near $200. I'd say PS4 will sell anywhere from $50 loss to $50 profit. It all depends on the price point which I expect to be betwee $400-$500. Then there's stuff like Playstation Plus and Gaikai which will only add to profits.

Gaikai will add to profits?! For Gaikai Sony has to acquire a lot of hardware, has to make expensive contracts with very big global peering partners and cdn-providers, probably they have to put up several datacentres all over the world and you say it will only add to profits? I doubt so.

Didn't they buy Gaikai for like $350m? They already have data centers and all that stuff. Anyway that's now what I menat by "it can only add to profits". I meant once its available to the public to subscribe to. I'm just wondering how deep PSN integration goes here. Do PSN Servers = Gaikai Servers now? Will Playstation Plus include Gaikai feature access or is it a different service altogether? Either way, the tech won't be free to use.  So it will be profitable in the long-run.