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BenVTrigger said:

Now Ive seen many on this and other forums bashing Live and saying it has nothing on Playstation Plus but subscriptions and userbase certainly say otherwise.

I think you're one of the best and least biased users on VGC, but I strongly disagree with this view.

I know I probably sound like a broken record, but sales really don't equal quality. Also, in my humble opinion, the reason 360 and Live are successful is the fact that they became very popular very fast.

Take my landlord's son for example. He was contemplating buying a ps3 over 360 for its exclusives and after some serious thinking decided to go with the ps3. I gave him some of my video games (such as LBP and even killzone, since he's an fps fan) and he had a blast (according to his dad). Fast forward a few months later, he sold his ps3 and all his games and got a 360. Why? Cuz all his friends had live. That was the one and only reason according to his dad. In other words, he didn't choose it because of smooth online or cross game chat, but in order to play COD on live, because of his friends. I firmly believe that that's the case with most people, not just with 360, but any popular product (I don't think iphones are that good, but still sell amazing compared to other devices with equal or arguably better features).