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snyps said:
theprof00 said:
snyps said:

Think about the old west (if you are not American use google).  There were very few laws.  Ppl got by in life by being strong and smart.  Point being if everyone is a well armed well trained person, you can then remove laws and everyone will leave each other alone because they don't wanna die.  Your argument is theory.  Mine is fact proven by American history.  Bad stuff will always happen but fear and loss of liberty is unnessassry.

What? How is your argument fact? The old west? Seriously?? That's when all the most dangerous people existed. You know what stopped it? The US Federal Government!

I re-read this again and I'm still shocked.

We disagree.  No big deal right.  You really think all the most dangerous people don't exist in america today?  Ppl are still being robbed and shot in the face and there's nothing you can do about it but but a gun in the victims hand to scare the criminal. Criminals aren't afraid of laws they're afraid of bullets.  Just my opinion, laws are only effective against good people who you have nothing to fear. Shocking isn't it.. Jabb jabb j/k

See, I understand your point, but the Old West is just a very bad example.
And frankly, I've NEVER heard of a gun carrying citizen stopping a crime. The only times I hear about such things are people shooting intruders in their home. But that doesn't prevent people from breaking and entering either.

I'm just playing devil's advocate here, but people with guns don't really stop criminals with guns either. Sure we can look at states with and without guns and look at crime rates, but there's all kinds of exceptions in that data.

As far as who is more dangerous, just look up the old outlaws. Nobody could stop them, even with huge bounties on their heads and bounty hunters trailing them. They'd literally stroll into towns, grab a drink, and nobody would do anything.