Captain_Tom said:
1) My claim in performance is not "bogus." The Wii U basically has a cut down 6570 with DDR3, that IS half the strength of a GTS 250 at least. 2) If the Wii U gets "Optimized" performance gains, than so does the GPU in the PS4 making the gap just as wide and your point irrelevent. 3)No matter how you dice it, EA, 4A, Deep Silver, and other developers and publishers don't think the Wii U's weak specs is worth their time. Whether its because they are "Lazy," or the Wii U is a console built by drunks is up for debate, but the end result is NO GAMES. 4) I understand what you are saying and it is: ill-informed, naive, and lacks support. |
It's all about scaling, Wii U equates to a low end PC in those terms and PS4 a high mid range, games should still be scale-able. At this moment in time 3rd party support has nothing to do with lack of performance, it is to do with lack of install base and the belief that people who buy Nintendo consoles are only interested in Nintendo games. Out of those you publishers you mentioned only 4A has been negative regarding the hardware. EA fell out with Nintendo over net code and Origin and Deep Silver saw no commercial viability at this moment in time, which is fair.
As for being ill informed http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+6570 & http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GTS+250 not a huge gap. Besides which you reference the Wii U GPU as a cut down 6570 when it really isn't and can't really be compared when it has been heavily customised and has a lot of unknowns on the GPU die when compared with off the shelf parts. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=511628 Your reasoning that it is a 6570 is just a guess really as many have speculated what is in there but no one really knows because many of the specs and functions seem to be an amalgamation of a number of slightly older midrange AMD GPU's.
As for talking about Wii U optimisations again at that point i was talking in comparison to a PC of similar spec not PS4, so again you failed to read what i was saying properly or chose to interupt it in a way that makes your comments more valid.
You clearly are some who just dislikes the Wii U and no matter what arguement is put to you, you will find a way to piss on a view that does not match your own. As i said earlier we will see when the cross platform titles appear and compare first party titles. When all is said and done i stick by my belief that the gap will be nothing like you believe it will be, especially for the first 2-3 years these consoles are on the market and by that time Nintendo will be around 1-2 years from a new console as i only see a 5 year lifespan for the Wii U. Throughout all of this you have also dodged any reference made to respective performance regarding resolutions, i can only assume you see this as irelevant for reasons unknown. Maybe because PS4 performance may not be all you believe it to be, KZ Shadowfall ran 1080p at only 30fps and while looking impressive was nothing mind blowing. I was more impressed with Crysis 3 maxed if i'm honest. Surely if this machine is as good as you believe it to be then are they locking framerate at only 30?
CPU in my laptop is a Llano A6.
Finally on a different but relevant note. This gen won't be won on graphics, we have already reached the point where the average user on the street can't really see that much of a difference. This gen will be won on games and the gaming experience. Sony will win and Nintendo will be a lot gamers second console unless Microsoft pulls out some exclusives from somewhere. I certainly won't be buying an all in one TV/Media/Kinect box. Wii U for Nintendo 1st party and exclusive, different, innovative 3rd party and indie games (you probably have noticed AAA devs are failing and Nintendo is hoovering up a massive amount of Indie support in case of a likely crash, as is Sony.) PS4 for exclusives and again Indies & 3rd party AAA's. Xbox will still sell but nowhere near as well as this gen, there is only so many times you can play Gears, Forza and Halo. In ten years time i can well see Nintendo being the only console maker around if MS continues to place it's faith in media and continues to lose money (on Xbox). Sony could well fold if PS4 doesn't sell, they simply do not have the money anymore. You will probably say Nintendo will be the first to go, but be serious they are sitting on $10billion in cash and run their business as a business carving out their niche and making PROFIT. Not chasing some loss led dream to be the only box in the living room. Jesus MS have even forgot how to make a good PC OS because they are so obsessed with jumping on the latest tech bandwagon. MAC is eating into their PC dominance by being sensible and keeping an OS for computers and an OS for touch devices, not combining them into the hideous mess that is Windows 8 (This is from someone who doesn't really like or own Apple devices). If that business decision is anything to go by then MS could well be doomed in the console market too. Every decision they have made in the last 2-5 years has pretty much failed, Windows Phone, Zune, Windows Surface, Windows 8 all failing to live up to expectations or failing completely. Even Xbox Live is a fucking mess to find anything these days, the second re design (3rd iteration) killed it. They should roll back to the previous dash. This one http://bumped.org/tek/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/xbox-live-new-dashboard.jpg Not as attractive but at least you could find what you wanted without having to hunt for it.