Universal Background Checks

[theprof00]

badgenome said:

theprof00 said:

Like, I understand that there shouldn't be a law against reselling drugs, and while there is one, it doesn't prevent people, including the black market from doing so, so I don't see the argument with that one. You can still do it. What's important is that if you give someone an oxy and they go out and hit someone with a car and kill them, you're also responsible. I think that's fair. I would never give anyone a gun that I owned, nor give anyone drugs without staying under my direct supervision... but there are people that do. And there are people that take advantage of others, and keep them addicted and under their control. I think that's wrong too. Should they be allowed to resell? Yeah sure, but there's more than one side of the story.

I should be able to resell something that I own. I agree. But I should also be held liable for something that is done by the person who bought it. Including someone dying because of drugs I sold, or shot by a gun I sold, etc.

I think what I'm trying to say here is that the law doesn't stop people from doing things, but it sure makes people think first before they sell something to someone who might get in trouble with it.

The extent to which someone should be held responsible for another's actions really ought to depend on intent. If I provide you with a tool knowing you intend to use it as a murder weapon, sure, that's rather different than if I sell you a hammer and you go beat somebody to death with it. On the other hand, I don't really feel entirely cool with the idea that a bar is responsible for a person who drank there getting in a car and drunkenly running someone over.

I totally agree. I work in a bar, and that's a bullshit law.

But that's just one facet of a problem. Let's not use an axe, but a scalpel to fix the problems.

I'm not against someone selling someone else a gun...personally, I would never do it because that just creeps me out.
Selling someone a hammer wouldn't really work though because there's no way you could know what they were using it for. You can think of it like, post-crime.... would you say "how was I supposed to know" with a hammer? Yes. Yes you would. But if you sold someone a gun, that's different, isn't it?

Or if you went to a club, and I sold you extacy, I would be worried about you until you got home safely. Or I might even go with you to keep you out of trouble. Know what I mean? Then, there's a difference if it's some 14 year old who then kills someone with a hammer. In fact, I probably would not sell someone a hammer while I was selling them drugs either :D