Margaret Thatcher's death proves why there will be no real action on Climate Change.

[the2real4mafol]

Kasz216 said:

the2real4mafol said:
How do i underestimate how much coal is used? I said it's 70% of their energy source, which is a ton.

And yes towns do spring up around oil wells BUT they haven't existed for hundreds or even thousands of years like coal mining comunities have. The impact of such communities being destroyed is very different.  

Well we should just get on with creating alternative fuels now then. I already except climate change isn't preventable (because we didn't cause it to start with!, it's a natural event), we must adapt to it. 

1) Not just China though.  For example in the US... 42% of our Power is provided by Coal.  In the UK it's 21%.

2) Why?  Why does how long a community is around matter?  Once you get past 2 generations what does it matter?  People here now don't remember back thousands of years.  Ask someone who's community goes back and i don't think they really give a fuck about how long the town has been there and care a little bit more about things like feeding their families.

It's also worth noting.  Coal and Oil Communties DO collapse.  The US has many depeleted coal towns just like the UK, but with no big government boogyman shutting them down.  They collpased because... they ran out of coal.  In general expecting such communties to last forever when based on a finite resource is foolishness.

3)  We already are working on alternative fuels.  Really it's not so much a matter of the tech being expensive though... as combustable fuels being cheap.

Well that and energy storing solutions being either shit or focused around fairly rare mateierals.

Something like a migration to natural gas would be a better short term option.  (though potentially useless.)

1) If we use so much even now, we shouldn't of shut down all coal mines. Although, we should try to move on from coal though.

2) It's just a tradition that was here that's all. Something, people don't care about until it's taken away from them. I have definately known communities to collapse, for example with fishing towns collapsing since trawling became a big thing. But the problem is, people do expect their community to last forever. It's not imaginable to most of us. 

3) I would support a major shift to nuclear, but not after chernobyl and the disaster in Japan last year and also all the waste they produce. Solar, wind and hydro must be made better. It must be possible to install very thin transparent solar panels within windows in the near future, if that was possible that would start to sort out our energy problem already, while having mini wind turbines on rooftops (don't worry, these ideas sound mad i admit it lol). and why must there be made with "rare" minerals, why not something more common?