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walsufnir said:
SvennoJ said:

It depends on the drive. The 12x DVD drive in the 360 spins at constant ~ 7500 rpm.
The 5x Wii U drive spins at constant ~ 4100 rpm. (no install, 1 minute load times in lego city undercover)
The 360 drive spins less then twice as fast, Wii U is silent, 360 sounds like a vacuum cleaner.

Loudness is not a problem, read and access speed is. Hopefully next gen comes with faster HDDs. 5400 rpm again will suck.

Thing is my drive (360) only exists for installs and initial "disc in tray"-check so... But rotating speed is only one factor - vibrations can also be loud is the design of the whole console is bad. Btw, the 360s is not really loud, I think. But that's not the point.

Of course access speed is crucial and read speed also and this is exactly why I think both consoles will use the ODD just to deliver the game, not to play games off it.  ODDs easily break when used too often and too much, they are the slowest part of systems right now and overall outdated (to me, at least).

I don't see the bluray-drive in ps4 streaming directly to ram, this would be a very bad idea.

Over the years I have had way more HDDs fail then cd/dvd drives. I watch tons of movies on ps3 and plenty of games use the drive (it's used every day) and I haven't had any problems with the drive.

The ps4 is getting a cav drive, meaning less wear and tear as it doesn't have to change speed all the time when reading different parts of the disc. The 27 MBs though put at the outer edge will be a good help next to a HDD install. Plus it's pretty pointless to put cut scenes on the hdd, waste of space. All bits help, for example for racing games read the track data in one big chunk from blu-ray, while at the same time read the car data and other random access bits of the hdd.

The 360 did have some bad drives at the start. I still have a 20gb phat relic, one of the first ones with HDMI. That dvd drive is bad. I would never want to watch a dvd on that thing. (My HD-DVD drive is silent though, plays dvds too)