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platformmaster918 said:
J_Allard said:
platformmaster918 said:

doesn't it sell less than PS3 which is 5 years older in America, the PS3's worst region?  I mean it's doing great and is definitely dominating handhelds, but considering it's already $170 it should be outselling PS3 in America.  Also 3DS was never out of first for the handhelds.  It sold fairly strong (just not Nintendo handheld strong) in the first couple months then exploded.  PS3 is still in 3rd (not for long) but it was getting trounced and hated across the entire internet and news media.  They completely turned around the console and got it to be (by the time it's disontinued) a ~100m seller (PS1 levels).  That's one hell of turn around that took years.  I can't compare that to a handheld selling slightly less than expected before rebounding before the competition even came out.

Uh.. the US is not the PS3's worst region. Japan is the PS3's worst region. And the 3DS was getting shit on just like the PS3 was. Seems silly to say sales matter when disqualifying the 3DS but then at the same time sales can't matter when PS3 is involved because it's still in last place.

1. It's quite obvious PS3 won't remain 3rd.

2. I mean marketshare wise.  Europe it's going to be first.  Japan it's been second for awhile.  US it'll remain 3rd and has always sold the worst compared to its competitors.  Of course Japan isn't going to compete on raw numbers their population could never match.

3.  How was 3DS didn't get nearly the hate PS3 did and wasn't late to the party to complicate its problem.  The competition hadn't even announced their price and yet it was pretty obvious Nintendo was going to be the same price if not cheaper (certainly not $200 more).  Also even if you want to say the level of hate was the same, for 3DS it was a period of a couple months at most while PS3 got shat on for at least a year at that rate before people started to change.  If we're keeping with the comeback story PS3 is a fourth quarter comeback (when it happens) while 3DS is a favored team not getting as big a lead as they thought they would in the first before blowing the other team out.

4. I never said sales didn't matter but I'm not going to compare a country like Japan to a country like the US when it's pretty obvious it's impossible for PS3 to sell as much in Japan as it did in the US.  Hell the PS3 in the US oustold the PS2 in Japan.  I hope that puts into perspective how ridiculous it is to compare those 2 regions on raw numbers and not market share.

It's in last place right now and this thread exists right now. Also, 2nd place this late in the game is still a failure for a company coming off PS/PS2 and the billions they lost.

Your comment about "worst region" was just a hilariously bad attempt at taking a swing at the 3DS. It makes absolutely no sense no matter how you try to justify it. So lets recap this. People are talking about the 3DS and you come in and say "well LOL US is ps3's worst territory and it still outsells 3ds LOL". Well the PS3 sold 17,000,000 units over the last 4 years in the US. In Japan, it sold 6,000,000. So you're basically saying that even though the PS3 sells three times as much in the US as it does in Japan, the 3DS not outselling the PS3 here is something to be ashamed of or something, because the PS3 happens to be the #2 home console in Japan. Yikes. Don't strain yourself with that reach.

The PS3 was on pace to outsell the 360 from the moment it launched. You guys are really overrating this negativity surrounding the PS3. Do not confuse NeoGAF threads and Kotaku articles with the real world please.