| Max King of the Wild said: This thread is ridiculous. A comeback for a company compared to a console? That's apples to oranges. Make a thread saying Nintendo made the best comeback if you want and I'm sure most would agree with you that are disagreeing with you here. I'm not back peddling. I haven't made any claims to back peddle on. And I won't quote you when I'm on my phone. I'm pretty sure Nintendo made more profit than Sony during GC era. Profits are important for a company but while talking about performance of an item it's irrelevant. Example I used earlier in the thread are sports teams that do great but can barely sell 5k tickets a game (Pheonix Coyotes and Chicago White Sox). You don't see people thinking the Cubs are a great team because they sell out every game. Kasz - people do refer to being down and out and making a game out of it later a come back as I've posted evidence earlier. |
I don't see how any rational person can come to that conclusion in a discussion like this. A comeback in this scenario should include all factors, not simply sales. Especially considering even if you took an entirely sales-centric angle, the PS3 still loses out because it's not even in 2nd place let alone 1st place. Furthermore, when was the PS3 having abysmal sales or anything? Some people in this thread act like it was on pace for GCN numbers and then just exploded.
360 launched in November of 2005. It sold less in 2005 than PS3 did in 2006 when it launched in November. In 2007, PS3's first year on the market, it sold more than the 360 did in either 2006 or 2007. Right from the start it was obvious the PS3, aligned for launch with the 360 numbers, was on track to eventually sell better. There was no "comeback". It was only a matter of time. Now, that time eventually took way longer than anyone imagined, due to unforseen success of the Wii and the 360 revival thanks to Kinect. But the point remains, it seems some people here have this theory that PS3 was heavily persecuted and started out terribly compared to the competition or something and neither of those theories mesh with reality.
Regarding your sports analogy, it doesn't really work because in both sports and the console wars, you have multiple perspectives. Yes, you're right, I doubt baseball fans would think the Cubs are a great team because they sell out. However, does the owner consider the Cubs a successful business, regardless of win/loss? No doubt. They are the 4th most valuable team in baseball. They made a lot of money without winning as many games as anyone else. That's not really a just comparison, sports to console sales, because the overall goal of every team in sports is to win a championship. And you win the championship by winning the most games, making the playoffs, and beating everyone there.
Meanwhile in the console business, I highly doubt that if Sony were to eventually pass the Wii in total sales, Nintendo execs would suddenly start panicing and would instantly consider this gen a total failure. Just like if Sony were to eventually pass the Wii in sales with the PS3, they might release some wordy PR about it, but it wouldn't result in Sony stocks surging, and wouldn't erase everything Sony lost this gen. It would still be a failure for them.
The sports comparison you're looking for is actually a "moral victory". For example, my Dallas Mavericks are missing the playoffs for the first time in like 11 years or so, but I am proud of the way they played considering they are a collection of old players on 1 year deals and our star player missed a big chunk of the season, putting the team in a huge hole and they only just yesterday climbed back to .500. That's a moral victory. What Sony might eventually achieve this gen is a moral victory.
