Machiavellian said:
oniyide said:
VGKing said:
Machiavellian said:
brendude13 said:
I don't think people understand what the OP is trying to say, either that or they are intentionally ignoring it. He meant the sales comeback of a single console only, not the financial comeback of a company.
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No I believe people do understand what the OP is talking about and people responding is saying you cannot dismiss the Money Sony had pay in order to come back. You cannot dismiss Sony going into the red while their competition has stayed in the green. You cannot dismiss that Sony lost a major market like the US to both their competition. If it takes 7 years for you to almost catch your competition while you are about to release your next product, then people are defining a comeback in narrow terms. As a product, that cost you th profits for your first and second gen product, do anybody think SONY believe this is a win.
If the OP would have stated that Sony as a business, making smart decisions to prepare their next console on some good moves and smart choices I will definitely agree. Because of the competition, Sony had to rethink their business and how they do business. They have take the strenghts of their competitors and made them strengths of their own while also bring some good features to their services like Plus. Sony mentality on Indie developers have changed and their thought process on giving the people who will make you successful (Developers) have changed. Sony as a company I would say made a great comeback.
The PS3, well like some one said, If Sony is willing to pay billions of dollars to gain 2nd place, I am sure MS and Nintendo is more than willing to let Sony do that again. The winners are still Nintendo and MS. MS turend around and became a national powerhouse, and Nintendo reclaimed heir crown.
This Gen everything starts over again and it appears before MS even get their product on the market, Sony fans are already proclaiming a win when this generation hasn't begun. This will not be a sprint but a marathon and all parties are pretty much starting at the same time.
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Company financials have nothing to do with this thread. Tha'ts really the only thing that the PS3 failed at. But it doesn't matter. I could mention how Microsoft also lost billions on the 360. Did you forget that they also sold the console at a loss? Did you forget about the RROD? The Xbox 360 may be a cash cow right now, but so is the PS3. Both consoles bled money for years and years for their companies.
Now lets please get back on topic.
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THis. Its like they dont want to admit the PS3 is a good machine so they a adding stuff that has noting to do with the discussion.
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Actually no, the PS3 has always been a great machine, the key is that it has not always been a great product. There is a difference between the 2. The PS3 today is not what it was when it released (thrust me I still have my 60GB first Gen PS3 but its broke). You cannot just ignore what it cost for Sony to get to this point today. You cannot say something is great but it cost a company billions to get it there as a product. People say, who cares what it took Sony to get here but then you are ignoring he health of the company if thats the case.
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"great product" fair enough. I know the PS3 is not the same today as it was before, that was my whole point. THere was alot of wrong with it, but again. I can ignore financials because they have NOTHING to do with me as a gamer. I dont see any of that money. I am ignoring their "health". That has nothing to do with their library. I know what it cost for Sony to get to this point, which is even more praise worthy IMHO. THe games that were coming out intially were not that good. Now they run fine and the 1st party output is twice as good as it was. Online much improved, those are things that i care about as a gamer, which is why i say they made a comeback.
