fillet said:
Pemalite said:
fillet said:
PC games may well use 3GB+ but at least 2GB of that is used for the OS.
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Actually, you don't really have any Ram that is reserved for the OS, in PC land it's all Dynamic.
For example, you have 4Gb of ram, the core part of windows itself might chug along with about 368-512mb of Ram for itself, but it can also cache gigabytes of frequently used data into the systems ram to speed up the operation of frequent tasks that you perform on the PC.
So that 4gb of ram in your PC might all be used up by windows if you are merely sitting at the desktop.
However, when you do start to run out of Ram when you say... Launch a game, windows will throw all that cached data out the window to allow the game to use as much as it can, within reason of course.
Once you hit a limit of what windows can free up and what the game needs, then Windows will then start shoving data into the Pagefile, which is slow. But better than a crash. :)
It's also why having Windows 7 or Windows 8 on a PC with 512Mb/1Gb of ram is generally fine, there will simply be just less stuff cached in the systems Ram and would be fine for just word processing and web browsing.
Right now though, with my 32Gb of Ram, Windows is using about 20Gb for just caching, granted I haven't turned off or restarted my PC in about 3 months.
Also, one thing I have worked out on this website is that people are willing to throw logic and common sense out the window in the name of their favorite console, pretending they're more powerful than they actually are, that they are more flexible than they actually are, when it simply isn't true.
The PS4 is a mash of Mid-Range and Low-End PC hardware, you need to be realistic on it's capabilities, not pretending it's at super computing levels like what Sony has claimed all it's prior consoles were.
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All well and good but have you actually tried this in theory.
Go and compare system performance with 1GB and 2GB in Windows 7, it's clear that 1GB isn't enough even for basic web browsing with the OS stripped to the bones of any service except ones that are critical to the OS running.
Only the other day I spent £20 on 2 x 1GB SODIMMs for my parents laptop and they only use it for web browsing and - nothing - else. They noticed a massive difference, when a system is caching to disk just browsing the web, the OS doesn't have enough RAM.
1GB - no chance that will run on Windows 7 without extreme aggrevation.
I agree, and a big part of the reason for me posting about the 8GB of RAM making graphics better. No chance when that 8GB RAM is being bolted onto an AMD 7850 hybrid.
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