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fillet on 13 April 2013
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walsufnir said:
fillet said:
RAM doesn't make graphics, limitation of RAM makes it harder to make games with free flowing open play without constant loading screens.

You could put 100GB of RAM in a calculator, it's still a calculator.

It's great news about the 8GB of RAM in the PS4 but some members here don't seem to grasp what that actually means.

I thing I have to comment on this, not saying anything counterwise.

The ram-talk on this site is getting ridiculous to me.

The problem with ram is one thing: if you have ram that isn't sufficient a game will suffer.

If Sony had built ps4 with 4 gb of whatever ram you can imagine it would have still suffered of being less than 8 gb than nextbox. I know that ppl would have argued that the speed of gddr5 would make it still better but that nonsense. It is always the size of ram which is really making a difference, not necessarily the bandwidth which is only one side of the medal of truth. Less ram can't be bought on "sideways". It would be true if you build a system of 8 gb ram with ps/2-fp-ram, but that's not going to happen. The combination of bandwidth and latency is crucial for performance is crucial, yes. But that's it, because ram only serves the computational units.

Because of the big amounts of ram gives devs the opportunity to build games we can all look forward to. No matter if DDR3 or GDDR5.

Very true.

In the case of the PS4/Nextbox = More RAM = easier to develop games for and better games with less loading and maybe games that wouldn't be possible with 2GB of RAM in a seamless way.

It does not equal better graphics, because the allowed increase in texture resolution would still need to be supported by other parts of the next gen consoles which would bottleneck it.

This is NOT a criticism of the PS4 or NextBox, it is a criticism of members on forums who don't know what the benefits of the extra RAM are - they are not graphical benefits, since we will already have more than enough video RAM to start with.

That's a good thing!

For example the PS3 was limited to 256MB system RAM and 256MB video RAM, this was a problem from the beginning because it wasn't even enough at release.

4GB would be more than enough for the PS4 and I'm not sure why it has more, likely for extra background services and so forth. I don't believe the rumour of only 1GB being locked to the OS.

If 2GB was put in there, that would be a similar situation to what the PS3 released with, it wasn't/isn't enough from the get-go.

This post not directed at you mate, but it's a similar topic ;)