Slimebeast said:
Mazty said:
Slimebeast said:
Mazty said:
Dear oh dear oh dear....
First of all the Bible wasn't "written" 300+ years after the events as the Bible is a collection of books rather than a book itself. The Bible however was composed, as in all the books, were put together 300+ years later meaning that various accounts in various forms had been floating around. When we mix that fact in with the fact that a lot of the books were not written by eye witnesses, go figure how valid the accounts in it are.
This thread is just fucking rediculous. It's amazing the level of ignorance surrounding the creation of the Bible - are you religious by any chance? Because very few people seem educated in anyway as to the origins of the New Testament.
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Yes, the definitive compilation of the Christian books (= The Bible) was complete in the 4th century. Everybody knows that. But what implication does that have on the authenticity of the original accounts if the compiled books themselves had been unchanged since their writing in the first century?
Yes, I'm religious. But you seem to be the one who is uneducated on the origins of the NT (or misunderstood it gravely).
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The original accounts weren't by eye witnesses. Therefore how reliable a source is it? The answer obviously is "not very". When you tie in the fact that Luke used Mark as a source, same goes for Matthew, then it gets complex as we realise that Mark is probably the most accurate source. However, there are possibilites that Mark tied in Homer's Odyssey to what was written, as well as stories that had been passed down orally.
If we were to approach that source as rational human beings with knowledge of the scientific method, it's validity is sketchy at best. So to then attribute Jesus as the most influential human being in history is rediculous as we don't actually know with any conviction what Jesus said.
No dude, you clearly are letting religion dictate it's origins rather than history, and are not approaching this rationally.
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...In the 30 years between Jesus death and the writing of the Gospels there undoubtedly was room for some errors and contradictions to creep in, but the essential themes seem to be very well preserved and trustworthy.
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Some of those contradictions clash with and invalidate Trinitarian doctrine. Trinitarian doctrine is very fragile.
Example, Doctrine says the Son is God...Father is God...therefore the Son knows what God knows and so God knows everything that could be known, but the scripture says Son does not know the Hour, but the Father does. Actually the Holy Spirit does not know the Hour either and he is also God the Allknowing.
