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Jereel Hunter said:
mutantclown said:

2. And Nintendo would have said No, too? nonsense. 

3. That's a 2008 article. The PS2 kept selling many more millions, and the PS3 became profitable. Again, poor sources, sorry, but that's total BS. Again, why don't we have a 720 already? according to your logic we should have it by now just like the PS3 came when the PS2 was in "pure profit region". You're just backtracking here, sorry, but it's also total BS.

4. I don't care about who loves Kinect, my point is not an opinion, it's a fact very evident in the kind of shovelware it supports.

2. The Wii and the PS3 aren't in the same league. Without MS, Sony wouldn't have needed to match the Wii. Netflix is a great feature, but it hardly makes the Wii a media box. Sony would NOT have to follow suit to compete with it.

3. Yes, it's a 2008 article, and the PS3 was $3 Billion in the hole. Sony's financials are available to look at publicly - The entire division the PS3 is part of hasn't made $3 Billion in profit since 2008, let alone the PS3. It's not poor sources, you have google. Look up anything you want - what I stated is well known FACT. You can even look at past threads here - noone that knows anything about the financials of the gaming industry thinks the PS3 is a long term financial success.

And let me break down what I said, and make it a little simpler - Neither company wanted to be the first to release the next console early in the generation. Both Sony and MS intended to win the generation, both in sales and profit, and thus stated their machine would have the longest lifespan, and that the OTHER would release their next system first. In the end though, Sony preferred to have the advantage of releasing their next system first.

And clearly this situation is different for Microsoft than the PS3 was in PS2 days. Sony was forced to release their PS3 - the 360 had already been out for months and sold millions of copies. The PS2 was in a very profitable place, but their competitor was gobbling up the "next gen" marketshare and mindshare. They couldn't afford to release later than they did.

4. Every platform "supports" shovelware. There's shovelware for the move, for the Wii, on PSN, on XBLA. It seems to cluster any games that target young kids along with that though, because there are some solid, fun kinect games that kids love. It may not have any valid harcore implications at present, but that doesn't mean it's incapable of delivering a quality product for it's target audience.

2. That's your appreciation, and I disagree because it sounds like nonsense. Netflix was getting big, they would have approached Wii and PS3 both.

3.  Well known and "easy"to google it? You're the one making the claims so you provide the source and confirmation or I'm going to call it BS forever.

4. Well, I will have to see a single game that could point to Kinect being useful as the main interface for any real game. And after that, more games that would actually prove it as a viable interface for "core" games.