Real or not, Jesus is the most influencial Human in history! If you deny that you are lying to yourself-

[JakDaSnack]

dsgrue3 said:

JakDaSnack said:

As soon as I asked you that I realized that my next point has nothing to do with it, so sorry about making you answer that.

Anyways, lets flash forward 1500 years, we are now in the year 3500, now in regards to the existence of Christ what are they gonna find from people during our generation?  they will find that their was debate, some people agreed that he existed, other disagreed, but the issue is that they are using sources from almost 2000 years prior. 

Now, lets flash back 1700 years, what does everyone (that made mention of him) say about Jesus.  They say he existed, in fact their is no dispute from any non-Christian sources that a man named Jesus walked the earth.  Now why is that?  Because back then, they actually had credible sources, over time, those sources obviously dissappeared, but up until around the 18th centuary, no one disputed the existence of God. 

Now look,you can argue all you want, and make excuses as to why this is, but arguing that the absense of contemporary evidence that Jesus existed proves that Jesus did not exist, is probably the worst argument someone can make, as I can use the same argument that there is no contemporary evidence that suggests that Jesus did not exist.

Sure, everything recorded is likely second hand sources, but back then, no one disagreed that Jesus existed.  

They will find the same information that we have today - the 50 years post hoc information. You think that simply disappears or what? I'm not sure what you're arguing here. It certainly isn't logical.

Back in Roman times no one disagreed that Zeus existed. Your argument is stupid. 

And I don't have to DISPROVE anything; I'm so sick of hearing this retarded statement. I am simply saying there is no contemporary evidence for Jesus, and that is enough to doubt his existence. You are claiming he existed, you prove your claim. I'm simply rebutting it; don't shift anything on me.

chriscox1121 said:

so you don't believe anything about history unless there was a contemporary author at that time writing it down as it happened?

 

Manifesting a Messiah 50 years later out of thin air is not evidence of anything. We have documents from before 4 BC and during Jesus' life. And none of them; NONE of them, contain any mention of Jesus.

 

Sigh...your saying that every Jew believed that Zeus existed?  sorry, but YOUR argument is stupid.  Their was debate over just about every God during that time, but there was no debate over Christ existing(The fact that he was mentioned at all during the first 3 centuries is actually astonishing).  If you want to have your own opinion and say that because their is an absense of contemporary evidence during his ministry that therefor that is enough to doubt his existence, then that's fine.  But personally, I find that it you just think of it from a logical standpoint, that he would have had to exist.  But again this is my opinion.