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slowmo said:
the2real4mafol said:
slowmo said:
Hilarious that you all think democracy still exists. The illusion of choice works wonders, maybe one day the public will wake up.

How do you think alot of these Arabs and Africans will feel when they find out "democracy" can be like this? It's something they are still fighting for. But, i don't even know how America is "land of the free" anymore, it favours one class or group of people over another and people can't change it with democrats or republicans. I don't even know how countries like the UK or USA are considered democratic when they are 2 party states. Countries like Italy and Israel are closer to being true democracies despite struggling to form coalitions.

The problem is what alternative is there to this democracy, i guess anarchy is the only option now as people don't want dictatorships anymore.  

 

That my friend is a very good question.  Unfortunately any policies that might be put in place are controlled by the governments but given they are in it for their own gains they aren't likely to make big strides towards creating more diverse politics.  I'll be honest and say right now that sovereign rule looks more appealing, at least you have someone at the top of the tree to accept the blame rather than a bunch of lying pigs out to deflect the blame onto others and dare I say back to the poor public mugged into voting for them. 

The only choice you make is who gets to line their pockets for the next few years, it really is depressing for me.  I vote because I hate to see my "right" wasted but I really do feel its pointless now.

 

Just to highlight a personal annoyance of mine in the UK.  We have serious budget defecit issues yet our goverments all do very little to tackle some of the more obvious route causes of public spending increases.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realise more people are leaching benefits from the state than ever before but little is done to solve the reasons for this.  Sure the governments pretend they will act tough and take benefits from people but they aren't actually solving any of the reasons why we are at this point.  Wages are too low, cost of living is too high, we have more broken families producing more single parents dependent upon the state.  Stupid EU policies have driven up costs for employers making them less likely to employee people.  The list goes on and on but the government will never tackle these difficult issues as they might lose votes.  Instead we'll whine about climate change and talk about changes that make bugger all difference.

The only real way to get noticed is to protest and that isn't guarenteed to work. I'm now old enough to vote but not sure if to bother in 2015, we all know Labour will win and i'm not sure if they are better than the current coalition (cons and fid dems). Our government are cutting the wrong areas and too quickly and they obviously favour the rich with that tax cut! Why do people vote for them?! Politicians can do amazing things for their nation if forgot the stupid shit in their ideologies. Not only is there the issue of fraud from benefit "scoundrels" (as you said wages are too low here) but it's really the issue of tax avoidance from the rich and numerous companies that is the problem. Remember Amazon, Starbucks etc. That's barely scratching the surface. Most companies avoid their tax, but MP's let it slide. That's abig part of the problem. Wasteful council spending is another but also high levels of immigration into the South East over the past 10 years. It's all built up into this economic fireball. People can make a real difference if they overcome their self interests. We the British have alot of problems, no simple solution could fix but it would help if we had MP's who understood everyday life and not be born with a golden spoon in their mouths!



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