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Dusk said:
Adinnieken said:
Dusk said:


http://playeressence.com/always-on-internet-connection-for-xbox-720-basically-confirmed-by-ms-exec/

 

Not sure who you are talking about but I was talking about Adam Orth as he is the one that stated this stuff on his twitter account. Although there is back and forth between Orth and Manveer and they said they were trolling each other (odd) but none the less, that is where my information was from.

Edit: ohhh, lol. Had to re-read my post. Right, The Workshop Experience. Either way, it was posted, and it was a quote. Althought the games mentioned were multi plat so there must have been some connection with MS.

Again, he neither confirms nor denies a feature in the Xbox 8.  He simply states he doesn't understand why, in this day and age, anyone would have a problem with an always on console.  Which, is different than always online.

Always ON means the device is always powered, even if on low power.  A cable box operates this way.  Most phones and tablets are never turned off, but rather maintain a low-power state until they're used.  Many people operate their computers and laptops in a low-power state for faster booting and quicker access.  Always ON is not a boogey man.  It just means the device will exist in a low-power state when the user "turns it off".  The PS4 will likely offer something similar.

Even Always Online is not the boogey man that people are attempting to make it out to be.  The Xbox 8 will have features that benefit from an always on, always connected device.  If the user doesn't use them, it's not going to be a major issue.  If the user does however, then it could offer very slick functionality.

Consider a world where someone doesn't have phone service, but instead has a phone line through Skype (VOIP) and thus uses Skype on all their connected devices.  Windows PCs, Tablets, Phones, etc.  That functionality would likewise be available for the Xbox 8 console too, giving people the abililty to easily hold a conversation from the couch.  Doesn't matter if it's video or voice only.

So, in that scenario, it'd be beneficial to have an always on, always connected device that way when a call came in the person could "answer" it.

Socery was not a multiplatform game.  It was a PS3 game.


Where are you getting Xbox 8 from? Yeah, I know what always on and always connected means, trust me lol, and yes I know many devices use this. As far as I'm concerned it's all conjecture, however if it is an always connected device this could alienate many gamers as many points have been made. I personally wouldn't be affected by this all that much as I live in Canada and have a pretty good internet connection, I didn't know this but apparently puts many US ISP's to shame (heh, tech savy Canadians(found out while playing The Old Republic)) and I hardly loose connection, but many will. I know of people that still use dial-up because it is all that they have available to them, or in other areas satellite internet which is great for downloads but still uses a phone line for uploads. The source of the problem is that with these inconsistant forms of internet, it might render the user to be unable to play the game they purchased on the system they purchased. This could be a very real issue if this is the approach that MS is taking. However with that said I can fully understand why they would go to such extremes since xbox live is/was hackable to give gold status and even steal games from the network. This is an ongoing issue that has only grown in the past few years and there aren't many ways to stop it. If I were in MS position I would likely do the same, but in doing so I would realize the down sides of this as well.

Once again, this is all unknown and based on rumors, so we won't really find out until the system is launched. Honestly I'm hoping for the best for the new MS console because competition in the gaming business is good. It encourages better games which results in a better gaming experience for the consumer, and really that's what it's all about right? Games for the gamers.

First, Xbox LIVE has never supported dial-up Internet.  So no one you know has ever had an Xbox and used dial-up.  Nor can you use a PS3 with dial-up.  It also isn't supported.

Second, if you don't have an Internet connection, you wouldn't be able to take advantage of those connected features, would you?  It would exist off-line.  Just as the Xbox 360 and Xbox functioned off-line.

Third, your assumption is based on unconfirmed rumor.  So far, every developer that is currently working on an Xbox 8 game, that has come forward anonymously, has refuted the claims made.  Even Kotaku acknowledged this.  So you have people saying that's how it works, and then you have developers who are actually working on games for the system, saying that isn't true.  Who do you want to believe?  An anonymous source that isn't working on a game for the system, or a developer that IS working on a game for the system?

I have this feeling that Microsoft is aware of the potential clientèle of the console.  I'm sure they've already looked at what functionality will be lost if the console isn't online. 

Microsoft is expanding the capabilities of its console with the next Xbox.  Expanding the capabilities doesn't mean they won't be delivering the basic functionality.  That would be self-defeating.  Likewise, they're not going to handicap the device so people who want to take advantage of new features can't fully appreciate them.