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CGI-Quality said:
dsage01 said:
CGI-Quality said:
dsage01 said:
ethomaz said:

I think the OP talks about GT and Forza without reason to do that... the title makes the things even worse... but I agree there is no need to insult anybody


The title clearly said "The GT and Forza Slayer". That means your putting the two games at an equal standing when they are clearly not.

I agree, but you have to admit the way you put it was asking for trouble. No, Forza will never be in GT's league, that's just how it is, but GT is a substantially bundled series during certain Seasons of the year (just like the majority of Forzas).

Still, both can sell on their own, through bundling, and by word of mouth. 

GT3 was probably the only GT that was somewhat massivley bundled. GT5 hardly had any bundles in N.A. or Europe. Whereas almost every Forza game has had weak sales until the massive bundling appears...

GT5 has had several holiday bundles, my friend. No, it didn't generate the majority of its sales said way, but they were there. As for Forza, it was never a big franchise, but selling upwards of 2 million per release (not including Horizon), and prior to signifcant bundling, isn't weak in my book.


I doubt any Forza game sold over 1.5 million without massive bundling usually starts 3 months after release. Even if it sells 2.5 million before massive bundling...that's what GT5 did in its first week. So when comparing to GT5 those sales are weak. Forza 3 and 4 sold an estimated 2-3 million only due to massive bundling. The rest of its sales are standalone which makes both around 3 million each.