twilight_link said:
fillet said:
twilight_link said:
BlueFalcon said:
twilight_link said:
mid-end gaming PC now (months before its launch), low-end gaming PC in few years, platform flushed with horrible looking ports of PC games mostly with bad frame rate and or low resolution.
The PS4 buzz stinks with Vita type fiasco, platform hyped by many bought by few.
Steam Box if done properly can wipe the floor with PS4
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Considering the early rumors of PS4/720 called for a GPU of HD6670 or 7670 level of performance, PS4's GPU is actually very respectable. In this economy and financial state of Sony, consumers wouldn't be interested in a $700-1000 PS4, while Sony couldn't afford a $300 loss per each console sold. Since GTX680/7970 use 180W of power in games, those GPUs couldn't be viable, and neither could the Titan. That leaves us with still expensive HD7950/670 or something reasonable alongside 680M/7970M/HD7870/660. NV charges stupid money for 680M while it's only 5% faster than HD7970M. HD7850/7870 deliver better price/performance than anything NV has had up until 650Ti Boost. An 1152 shader GCN part with 176GB/sec memory bandwidth is actually the best you could have gotten without the price of the console or its power consumption ballooning way above reasonable levels. The bigger dissapointment is the CPU not the GPU.
Steam box won't wipe the floor with PS4 unless it costs substantially more. Since developers will code directly to the metal on PS4, Steam Box would need a way more powerful GPU to even come close to PS4's level of graphics. There is absolutely no way that $450 GTX680 would be able to play 2017-2018 PS4 games at the same level of graphics quality/performance.
It sounds like you hate consoles in general but don't understand how the console business works. Additionally, if consoles didn't exist, blockbuster games wouldn't be viable since PC platform alone cannot sustain development budgets of games like Bioshock Infinite, BF4, Crysis 3, etc.
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it's xbox360 scenario all over again, with some bang at the beginning and fast moral aging in few years, this time with mid-end and slightly modified off-shelf parts (the aging will be much faster this time), and no Cell for some neat tricks, so what is your point.
The console gaming no longer exist (except for Nintendo) the consoles became nothing but PC for those who are unable to properly configure gaming PC, in fact it brings nothing what makes the PC great eg true RTS and Simulators, just PC like machines for mob.
in case of SteamBox if this system brings easy usage and ability to upgrade your box, well then it can became success in the end.
The possibility are endless, in case of Playstation their 1st party output is good on paper but not so much in sales, and with hardly any other exclusive games(most are multiplatform), i think the days of PS brand are over.
Vita is great example how weak their brand actually is.
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Not sure what you're on about here. You mention PS 1st party exclusives....what about PC exclusives?
Sure there's been SimCity and maybe 1 or 2 other decent high end big bugget games...
...In the last 5 YEARS.
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your post is nonsense Total War series, MS Flight Simulator and much RTS and simulators in general are more or less PC exclusives, whether the game is big on budget or not is not important for quality of the game itself.
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I'm really not sure what you're talking aboiut here. Of course the PC has got the RTS/Flight Sim market covered - that's a given, who would want to play a serious flight sim or RTS on a PS3 or Xbox 360 or any console without a mouse and decent joystick. Consoles were never for thos typee types of games in big numbers.
The PS3 has had way more big exclusives than the PC in a bunch of different genres, heck even the Xbox 360 counting muliplats has pretty much everything the PC has got. Don't get me wrong, I'm into RTS games myself and wouldn't want to play them anywhere else than on a computer (I'm more into computers than consoles). But your comment just sounds way too biased towards computer gaming, consoles have plenty to offer that computers don't, ease of use, accessibility, pick up and play, and then of course those games you very rarely see on a PC like Uncharted/GoW and so on.
It's not about your personal preference, or mine, which is for the most part on the computer for me too. It's about the overall demographic and that is firmly in console territory - like it, or not!
