Greek football player banned for life for Nazi salute.

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Rab said:

Greek youth are becoming more right wing as their financial crisis continues, they gather around the banner of the Golden Dawn (Nazi's) which have won some seats in parliament, Greeks are quite anti-foreigner, and anti-minority (They don't offically recognise other races in Greece), it's quite a racist country, more so than any other EU country, although their are some in Greece trying hard to control these influences

What that man did wasn't an accident

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_wsite1_1_06/03/2013_486010

Eh.  Greece has a huge racism problem, but more then any other country feels like an exageration

What with Poland, Bolgaria and such.

Now what are you trying to suggest here?

 

I think the penalty is deserved. I think you really have to be retarded to believe a 20-yo European wouldn't know what this gesture means. It's a pity that such a cool Roman sign was turned into something representing such evil.

That Poland is quite racist.

As for a 20 year old europeon... hell, even a 20 year old american would DEFINITLY know what that was. 

I mean, America loves WW2.  The history channel used to be nothing but WW2 because WW2 was the history americans liked most because WW2 is one of the biggest points in US history... espeically from the "Great country" narrative since the Nazis were essentially as far "universally evil" as you are ever going to get.

And you base that on?

Milawa riots and general treatment of the Roma, various racist incidents involving poland in soccer games.

Though looking at it, it does look like they've seen a decrease recently, so good on them.  Good to hear I am part Polish afterall.

What's Milawa riots? I've never heard of it. Even google isn't helping.

Roma? You are clearly mistaking countries. They are a serious issue in Slovakia, Czech Republic and maybe Romania and Hungary, but not in Poland. Also I can't recall a single racist incident in Polish football games and being Polish I watch all games our boys play :) In fact there was one African player who got Polish citisenship after a huge social outcry, cause he was so popular that everyone wanted him to play for us:

I might not have spelled it correctly since it's been off, but in the early 90's the a number of polish people riotied and attacked Roma people.

Ah here it is  I added an I in there for no reason.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C5%82awa_pogrom

 

As for Soccer....

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jun/09/sports/la-sp-baxter-soccer-20120610

http://world.time.com/2012/06/08/euro-2012-racist-abuse-of-dutch-players-in-poland-clouds-soccer-tournament/

 

As for soccer games.

The Polish Wikipedia site for the Roma incident is actually much more informative and gives you more insight into the matter. If you read it, you'll see that it actually wasn't what the English Wikipedia says. This guy hit two people with a car and killed one of them (a Polish soldier), after that he run away without helping them. What was worse, this was 1991 - just after we regained independence and were going from communism to capitalism, which was a very, very difficult period, 35% of people there were unemployed and these Roma were actually wealthy. More importantly though, the government had no authority among the people, there were some conflicts in the city that resulted in a blockade of the whole city and in general in the 90s the goverment didn't have much authority, just like in any trasitional period. But most importantly - a different Roma caused a car accident a year earlier and avoided any kind of punishment (and we're talking about a very small city). So this is quite easy to see, that it wasn't rasism or being anti-Roma, but there was a different reason behind this. People thought that they would use their money and influence once again to avoid punishment and didn't want that to happen. The Wikipedia site also says, that not a single person was hurt and the people weren't at all interested in the poor Roma, just went after the rich ones, which is a crown proof that it wasn't rasizm, since if you're a rasist, you don't care about the material status of the one you hate. It was just the poor seeking justice vs. the rich in times when the goverment and courts have no authority. I really believe that unlike in Slovakia or Czech Republic, there are no racial issues with the Roma.

 

@football - let's face it, stuff like that happens everywhere. Even your article says that somebody threw bananas at Balotelli in a bar in Rome. John Terry also faced a trial because of racism. Kobe Bryant called a ref a faggot last season. Stuff like that happens, it's bad and should be punished, but you can't compare that or a few idiots going to an open practice and making monkey sounds to what's happening in Greece, France, Germany or Russia, where people are persecuting, actually hurting or even killing immigrants, devastating Jewish cementaries, etc. Such stuff is not a problem in Poland and we really are victims of unfair blowing things out of proportion.