wfz said:
That dead island thing is debatable, but I'll give it to you. So there's an example of women being objectified. Now you're telling me redheads aren't objectified as "carrot tops" "gingers" etc. and made fun of? How the stereotypical redhead in cartoons is always ugly, skinny as hell, and has nerd glasses on? How about the fact that all of these "racist" and "sexist" ideas you're bringing up are all general and not targeted towards a specific person, meanwhile I have PERSONALLY been ridiculued and hated on for who I am physically my entire life? That hurts me a lot more than some stupid statue of a generic woman (ex. if it was a generic statue of a ginger). I don't care about that. I care about how I'm PERSONALLY treated. You're basically trying to tell me that because I'm white, I can't get offended and could never be as offended as someone else. So I'm inherently different? I thought we were all equal and could all be equally hurt. Do insults take me back to the time when I was a slave? Nope.. and I don't see any other black people who could say that. History doesn't matter as much as the present. And you know what? Redheads have always been made fun of. Oh shit, now I have a history to look back on where redheads have been ridiculued. Now am I allowed to have emotions and be hurt? Just because I didn't find this one example to be sexist, doesn't mean I don't have respect for women and am sexist. You made a huge assumption there, buddy. Maybe the ideal man is less confined than the image of an ideal woman. I'll give you that point. But it still stands that many men love and appreciate many different forms of the female body, and vice versa. That's beside my main point, however, as I'm arguing that I can be just as hurt as a human being and just as emotionally impacted as anyone else. And at work? I still get the ginger jokes and made fun of occasionally. Where the fuck is my equality? Oh, I'm white and male, I don't get equality. I get to sit down, shut up, and take all the hurt and insults because I apparently don't have the same emotions as women and blacks who can be discriminated against. After all, you're claiming that's what your sociology tells you. |
No, that's not what i'm saying at all. What i'm saying is. People have had it worse then you... and you are downplaying what they went through.
There are Black people who went through everything you went through, except they went through it because they were black... and they didn't get jobs because they were black, and they were beaten, because they were black, and they were callled a slave because they were black and brought back to when they were slaves.
So yeah... it really ins't equatable, because you just don't have the same "bottom". It's hard to hear, I know, but it's true.
And yeah... they do deserve more attention? Why? Because it happens to a LOT more people, there are a lot more black people, and women who go through the shit you did, then there are red heads, and it's a higher percentage of their population.
These people were systematically discriminated against hundreds and hundreds of years. The power differential just isn't remotely the same.
Not only that, this is something hardwired into people by people specifically in society. So yeah, people get more upset... because there is a reason to get more upset.
It's like complaing that nobody is paying attention to one guys house gettng knocked down by a tornado but everyone is paying attention to a hurricane that devistated New Orelans.
It's not that nobody feels bad for the one guy. It's just that the hurricane is a FAR more pressing concern.
You've got a probelm with people making jokes about being a ginger at work? Go ahead and do something about it then. I doubt many if anybody would particularly say you were being unreasonable. (at least not among people who find the above sexist) Just that it isn't nearly as big of a concern as what happens to women or black people because the likelyhood it will offend and the level it will offend is of a much higher magnitude.
Edit: also seriously https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/
It will teach you something if you take it honestly.
