antfromtashkent said:
Kasz216 said:
wfz said:
Kasz216 said:
I couldn't disagree more. Even if Chris Rock just called someone a cracker in anger.... nobody would care. Not because of double standards, but because there just isn't a sufficent history there to bug people. Being called a cracker isn't essentially being equated to property.
You can't get rid of something like sexism or racistm without getting rid of sexist and racist actions and words. Which means your going to get angry and specific things with racist and sexist commments. Therefore clearly you are going to get more upset at things which have more context to them, and completely blow off stuff that doesn't make sense or has little context.
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I'm going to step off the topic of the thread (sexism) to respond to this.
Thank you, Kasz. You should be proud of yourself. Your ignorance and double standards with regards to racism is something so much of our society seems to hold, and it is the reason I grew up as a child and was ridiculed, looked down upon, and made fun of for my skin color. In a society that praises dark, tanned skin, I was a "ginger." A completely "pale skinned" boy that certain people loved to make fun of. I was so distraught over my skin and my hair that I absolutely hated going to the beach because I knew I stood out, and I hated going to school every day because certain people would make fun of me for my hair, for my skin. And no one would stand up for me, because I was white and no one saw that I could be hurt by racial comments as well.
But it's okay, right? I'm white! I have nothing to complain about. History's on my side! LOL, how fucking ridiculous is that. I don't give a fucking shit about history. I give a shit about how people treat ME, NOW, in the present. And I've heard way too many people laugh at me and call me "ginger." I've heard way too many people demeaningly point out my white skin. And you know what? No one fucking stands up for me. No one gets those kids in trouble. You know why? Because it seems most people are like you. Most people hold dobule standards with racism and believe that it's only bad against blacks.
Well Kasz, fuck you. Fuck you and your double standards to hell. People like you made my childhood a regretful experience. Go ahead and ban me, I don't even give a shit right now.
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You felt bad? That sucks. Still you hadn't ever been referred to or had reason to feel like property.
So yeah. Shitty, sure? Still not anywhere near as shitty as being made fun of for being black... or for being a woman.
Though yeah... support people beign a huger dick to those groups because random white people were a dick to you... because you were less tan then other white guys.
Also ignoring the fact that there isn't one perfect good look myth for men and women have much more varied looks and views on what's attractive. So the social pressures on men aren't anywhere near as strong as they are for women to confirm to one ideal body type.
In short. It sucked for you... but it still wasn't nearly as bad as it was for other people.
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Wtf are you talking about? You are talking as if slavery still exists... I never owned slaves... I'm Russian. Why ta he'll should I feel bad? I was not a part of that atrocity. Why is it that people must feel bad about the past? Same goes for the woman argument. He is talking about what happened to him and you are talking about ansestors. Your argument is ridiculous....
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Why should people feel bad about what happened to other peoples races and sexes. It's called having empathy for people who aren't yourself.
That you know that black people went through slavery for hundreds of years should mean you have enough common decency to be a little more sensitive around them when possibly saying something racist. Since this is something that has effected their entire lives since they've been thought as non-human and to some degree this myth is still perpetuated in todays society.
That you know women went through well... all known existence should make you a bit more sensitive with them in regards to things that could be sexist... because... well the exact same reason for racism.
I feel bad for wfz, but the truth is, other people have had it worse, and he's targeting those people to kick, because he's bitter about his own childhood... despite the fact that the people who bugged him were doing so because he wasn't a tan white guy.
(Which again, isn't even the sole ideal of male good looks. You look at a Top 50 sexisest men, and it's a lot more diverse then top 50 sexiest women.)
