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radiantshadow92 said:
JWeinCom said:
Screamapillar said:
Lol. Okay...do me a favor. Save this thread in your bookmarks, and come back to it after Thanksgiving weekend 2013. Wii U will sell like gang-busters, and I think it will out-sell the other two consoles from Microsoft and Sony. I will come back after that weekend too and will be sure to mention that I told you so.


If you're right, feel free to bumb this topic then but no chance I'm going to remember to check that on my own.  Anyway, I don't know if I fully agree with that.  Microsoft's new console is a wildcard which I can't really predict.  The PS4 has pretty good buzz going.  It's really a matter of what Sony can produce and if Nintendo will be strong enough in the "casual" (ugh I hate the term) sector to outdo Sony's advantage in the "hardcore" (that one too) sector. 


seriously which one is it? are there casuals or not. So many nintendo owners swear that there is no such thing as core or casual becuase they consider being a casual a bad thing. Yet, when something like this comes up they run to the argument that the casuals wouldn't want to buy those core games anyways. There shouldn't be any hating the term if you are using it to back up the wiiU ressurgance.

What I dislike about the term is two things.  Firstly that hardcore has become particular associated with certain styles of game.  For instance, Pikmin, Fire Emblem, and Wonderful 101, don't really fit into the realm of "hardcore gaming" although the people likely to play these games are likely to be more avid gamers than the average COD or Halo fan.  The terms create a dichotomy of games where hardcore is generally equated with realistic graphics, shooting/sports/racing genre, and rated M (or at least T). 

Hardcore and casual are also considered by most to be mutually exclusive.  Earlier today, I played some Wii Fit,a little Lego City Undercover, some Need for Speed Most Wanted,  and some Bioshock Infinite.  The "casual/hardcore" gamer divide doesn't really account for stuff like that.

There are clearly different audiences in gaming though.  It's obvious that many of those who bought the Wii had different tastes than those who bought 360s and PS3s. It's also obvious that there are a lot of gamers out there who won't be swayed by the list of games that the OP listed, but will be swayed by a new Mario Kart.  I'm not denying that certain gamers are different from others, and I don't think any sane person would.  I just don't like the terms we currently use to describe different groups.