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HoloDust said:
TheShape31 said:

From Merriam-Webster.com:

Creative : having the quality of something created rather than imitated : imaginative


This isn't something we're going to agree upon.  

Take a look at Gears of War again.  The graphical design of world, characters, colors... everything came completely from the imagination of the developers.  Nothing existed before, it was Created in their minds.  Creativity achieved through a high level of detail.

Now look at Battlefield 4 again.  Every world, character, vehicle, weapon... everything already exists in this world.  It's imitating something we see already.  Turn on the news, watch a war documentary.   Nothing new is being Created within the imagination of the developers.  Realism acheived through a high level of detail.

Without getting into what creative means (too much of that word is being misused in last few decades, specially in games industry), it seems you're misinterpreting what I'm saying, so here it is again:

Photorealistic or Stylized does not determine whether is something creative or not

Take for example some potential future Blade Runner game (not the excellent Westwood's P&C adventure from '97). Blade Runner movie is wonderfully designed, and lot of creativity went into it, both in picture and sound.

Now, this potential game could be made to look Photorealistic, like the movie, and if done right, we would say it is a product of some very creative people. Of course, it could be completely Stylized, and done cell shaded like Journey for example, and if done right we would say exactly the same thing.

Whether that game looks Photorealistic or Stylized will not determine if it's done creatively or not.


No one's misinterpreting anything here.  You act as if there's one truth in this whole discussion.  There's only opinion, and maybe you can't agree to disagree but I can.  I've understood where you've come from on every point, I just see things very differently.  Give it a try.  Acceptance is bliss.