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JazzB1987 on 26 March 2013
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Mazty said:
JazzB1987 said:

 I mean the DAWN part of the Nvidia demonstration was totally cr(a/e)ppy because some person tried to immitate facial expressions and it didnt work.

And in Davids demo you see 1  guy without changing emotion  (well his eyebrows move WOW)  use your hand and hide the upper part of his face so that the nose is the last thing you see  nothing moves at all.....


1. What the.....DId you even watch the Nvidia demo? DAWN was highlighted as being creepy, so no shit it was creepy....

2. And secondly if you think the Quantic Dreams guy showed no emotion/think there is an issue with him moving just his eyebrows then you are incredibly bad at reading emotion. Or making a worthless comment. 

1. What exactly was your point here?  I say it looks creepy  you say it looks creepy.    Did you come up with this discovery by yourself? Congratz.

Its obvious that Nvidia showed creepy Dawn to highlight how much better the "hairless dude" is. Did I say something else? No so try not to jump to conclusions when you dont understand or please start to read the whole thing so you see the context.

And when you are at it also quote the full paragraph not the part that  helps your argument.


This is what I said:
"I just jumped on the creepy/uncanny-train ken started and said that they should use mocap like in LA Noire and refine that method. I mean the DAWN part of the Nvidia demonstration was totally cr(a/e)ppy because some person tried to immitate facial expressions and it didnt work."
(I highlighted the part you ignored)

All my comments here were made to show that mocaping faces should be standard.
(of course they need improvements etc. but its always better than 1 guy or team moving around the mouse cursor/s to position lips etc so it somewhat looks like a smile. They can do mouse cursoring for characters like Sonic etc. Not for realistic humans please.)

And to help this I said that dawn looked creepy BECAUSE some person tried to immitate emotions/facial movement and OF COURSE it didnt work because of that.  I never said  "hahahaha look at how shitty dawn looks like  nvidia n00bZ"

2.
You have some problems with  understanding what you read right?
I said " without changing emotion" where did I say there was no emotion at all?

They simply didnt really change the "old guy's" emotion because they just moved the eyebrows.   Just for your interest   your "lips"/"nose" (muscles around them) move ALOT when you change your emotions  that certainly didn't happen with the "old guy".  I see what the old guy is supposed to show but it fails at being a change of emotion.

You know its like people that ACT as if they smile and forget to move their eyes thats also not an EMOTION.

Real                       vs                      Fake


So when I see how I try to make a comment that at least has some plausible information than its more you that seems to be "incredibly bad at reading emotion. Or making a worthless comment. "

Thanks for reading.