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dobby985 said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
zarx said:
AbbathTheGrim said:

I wonder what are the "innovations in control input" he is expecting from PC gaming.


We will see what Valve is cookin up 

OT:  American McGee was always a bit of a nut


What do you mean? Steambox? That is hardly a PC, is it?

It is. Valve said so themselves.

That doesn't necessarily assures this thing to be a PC and not a console. It could be a marketing approach. We will have to wait and see.

zarx said:
AbbathTheGrim said:


What do you mean? Steambox? That is hardly a PC, is it?


Steambox is a PC in a cutom box, but I was refering to their controller they are aparently working on. 

They will aparently be starting public beta testing of Vavle hardware soon, whether that is their controller, "steambox" turnkey TV PC box solution, their VR stuff or their augmented reality/wearable computing project only lord GabeN knows. Tho aparently they did gut their hardware department so it's all up in the air at this point.

@dobby985 as well,

I left this topic resting for the day cuz I needed to ponder about it. I think this discussions is quite pointless at this point because we barely know anything about this thing, but I will try to consider some of the possibilities of this platform or whatever.

To begin with, I think the lines between consoles and PCs are getting blurred more and more. So how do we define what makes a PC and what makes a console? I will try not to create and argument about this. People can simply jump into this thread and argue that having X thing or things and not having X things would make a platform a PC, I won't be surprised if soon we will see an argument created about what is a PC and what is not. I even recall reading comments around the web from people who already considered consoles some kind of a PC. I don't think they still have gotten there yet though.

I read some of the little info we got on this thing at the moment and I don't see anything announced yet that can convince me this thing is a PC. Of course, like I said, we barely know anything from this thing. I read that it will run operating systems, the PS3 ran Linux at some point, does that made the PS3 a PC? I wouldn't be surprised if some people believe it so.

But my stand on this is, in order for something to be a PC, especially a gaming PC, it will need to have full customizable hardware to make it be subject to upgradable components that can provide the same experience PC has and allow PC gamers to enjoy that advantage over consoles, one of those advantages apart from modding, maxing games in custom hardware.

The controller, well, we will see as well.



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1