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Scisca said:
Gamerace said:
Yeah I agree with the OP but Gigantor2 has a very valid point, the Kinect 2.0 720 will likely be more appealing to casuals than a WiiU minus gamepad (and even at it's much cheaper price-point it'd have to compete directly with 360/Kinect at the same price).

Nintendo has really screwed themselves with the gamepad. A modified and enhanced wiimote with built in touch screen (small) would have been a much better idea and was in fact the original idea that spawned the gamepad. Why they went back to dual analog is beyond me. It was like admitting their own defeat at motion controls.

Really making some awesome game that need the gamepad in a fun and compelling (not shoehorned) way is they only way to save the WiiU from mediocore sales. And I just don't see it happening. What are they going to come up with that hasn't been done on DS/3DS/any touch screen device? A touchscreen was f---ing ancient (tech-wise) before release, and everything it can do is being done on other touch screen devices now. Worse, Galaxy S4 will allow you to play all your games on both your phone and TV with a dual analog/touch screen/motion controller. Infinitely cooler than a WiiU (and Ouya) for a huge host of reasons. No one needs a WiiU. It's existence isn't (yet) justified. And I'm a huge Wii fan.

Their best bet is scrapping WiiU ASAP and launching another more power, more innovative console post PS4/720 to be the best console for both core/casuals and make it a device that can play at home and on the road.

Dude, this is the 3rd time today I read you talking about this stupid S4 feature. Trust me, this won't a factor. Nobody is going to use a phone instead of a console. This whole dual analog accessory will be a niche thing that nobody is going to care about, just like similar stuff for the iPhone.

I'm not disagreeing with you on that. 

Point is, 'core' gamers would get a PS3/360 over a WiiU(or PS4/720)  and any casual gamer who was interested in playing with a dual analog control/touch screen affair (niche - I agree) would be better served with competing devices like the Galaxy S4 (which will easily outsells WiiU's lifetime sales in a year) or Ouya or WikiPad or Razor or.....   The Gamepad isn't doing anything unique to differeniate the WiiU from other devices on the market which is hurting it's sales potential.   

Point is WiiU can't do a Wii Sports success story because it can't do anything truly unique like Wii did for four years (prior to Move/Kinect).